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Re: Center Cockpit Versus Aft Cockpit

Actually, there are some center-cockpit boats out there that are WETTER than their aft-cockpit counterparts. It really depends on a lot of different design parameters as to whether or not a center-cockpit will be drier in heavy seas.
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Re: Center Cockpit Versus Aft Cockpit

If the bulk of your time is at the dock, then the interior space of a CC is a plus. If the bulk of your time is away from the dock, then the extra deck space of an aft cockpit is a plus. It basically comes down to making a realistic assessment of how you'll actually use the boat.
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Re: Center Cockpit Versus Aft Cockpit

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If the bulk of your time is at the dock, then the interior space of a CC is a plus. If the bulk of your time is away from the dock, then the extra deck space of an aft cockpit is a plus. It basically comes down to making a realistic assessment of how you'll actually use the boat.
I don't agree. I sail the bottom paint off my CC boat. BTW - buying a CC was a surprise to me. I truly didn't expect to buy anything but an aft cockpit boat. She sails great, is easy to handle alone, dry in really ugly conditions, and is comfortable entertaining and for just the two of us.
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Re: Center Cockpit Versus Aft Cockpit

When we considered a centre cockpit some years back I found the loss of cockpit lockers something of a minus but the aft cabin a major bonus.

Have to say I do prefer sailing an aft cockpit but visibility particularly under power is a nice aspect of centre.

Quite frankly, if it came to the crunch I doubt the position of the cockpit would be a deal breaker.

Mind you, the very idea of ever having 12 people on board give me the heeby jeebies.
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.......Mind you, the very idea of ever having 12 people on board give me the heeby jeebies.
Amen. We've only maxed at 11. They all sat lined up shoulder to shoulder with each other for a day sail. It actually went much better than expected, but that was a lot of work to entertain that many. The boat herself, at 22 tons, doesn't even notice we're aboard.

The advantage of having 12 seats is the room to spread out very comfortably with only 4 or 6 aboard. In fact, 8 becomes a no-brainer. When you only have 6 seats, the cockpit get cramped quickly.
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Re: Center Cockpit Versus Aft Cockpit

wow, great information.
i knew some of that stuff, but didn't consider all the differences.
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Re: Center Cockpit Versus Aft Cockpit

Of course, if you have the cash, an Alubat Cigale solves the problem without needing to argue for or against CC.......

Aft cockpit with Saloon in the aft and state rooms by the mast for easiest motion when asleep.
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Re: Center Cockpit Versus Aft Cockpit

Nothing better to understand the differences between a CC and a AC boat then to have the same hull designed by the same guys on both configurations. Yes it exists; the Najad 440 comes in both configurations.

The 44 is a size that where a CC is already not too ugly but it is evident that the AC version is much more elegant, offers less windage and a much bigger cockpit and the Najads are among the best designed and less massive CC.
Of course, you can go to the Najad site and compare the Aft cabin...and there the advantage goes to the CC.













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Re: Center Cockpit Versus Aft Cockpit

We have a Centre Cockpit 35 footer, and love it.

When we bought her we had discussed the pros and cons of aft cockpit vs Centre Cockpit and had no real prejudice either way. Now after months of cruising I can say that for us the design works.

Is the cockpit small??
Yes but this gives the boat A snug and protected feel offshore, and I believe it helps makes for a drier boat. Plus at anchorage, the rear deck area means that you end up with two separate outside 'living areas', I can fish off the back or top up the outboard with fuel, while my wife is reading in the cockpit with a glass of wine Combining the two together in one cockpit would result in displeasure. Being a 35 footer generally someone else in the anchorage has the bigger boat for sundowners for 12

Is the cockpit harder to get out of??
Yes. On a boat designed to sail oceans that is kind of the point
I do have to step out of the cockpit carefully to help with lines etc coming into a marina, but it has never really been a deal breaker.........

Small Salooon?
Also yes, but even on our 35 footer, it has been big enough for the 3 of us without any problems, the big aft cabin once again means that you have another very useable and comfortable space for booking reading and relaxing. Our aft cabin means our boat feels like home, It is far more liveable than the V-Berth on alot of 40+ Aft Cockpit boats.

Is the boat ugly???
Please. Compared to the 'squat' look of a 35ft modern high volume aft cockpit production boat? I think you are in dangerous territory calling anyone's boat ugly.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and we believe she is a gorgeous boat.
The Centre Cockpit Hallberg-Rassy's are to me some of the most beautiful yachts sailing the oceans. If like some of the more racing orientated members above, you prefer yachts that look like spaceships with sails then maybe they are not to your taste

High Windage??
On some designs perhaps yes. Ours is not as bad as some and well to be honest I have never really found it too much of an issue.

Like all things boat design it comes down a compromise between competing needs. It depends on how you want to use the boat, and what you believe would work best for you. I tend to think Centre Cockpit tends to lend itself more to serious cruising. A bit of research will show you most Centre Cockpit designs are aimed at this section of the market( Yes there are plenty of aft cockpit boats in that category too). I would not buy a CC as a party boat, a day sailor, or social racing boat.....
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Re: Center Cockpit Versus Aft Cockpit

Chall03, brings up a very good point. On a CC, the Bimini is usually only over the cockpit, allowing more flexibility to get out in the sunshine on the aft deck, if you choose. Personally, I prefer shade (lots of skin cancer in my gene pool) and I get plenty of outdoors. My wife suffers from a tad of claustrophobia and really wants to get out from under it. Her solution is the foredeck, but not underway. Ironically, she has no problem being cramped in any tight bunk we've been in. But once awake, she is on deck.
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