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do they run that coffee machine off shore power/inverter or has someone finally come up with a half decent 12v espresso machine ?
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Fuzzy,

If you have a truck stop around there, run into the store part some time, all kinds of 12V stuff you can buy that might work for a boat. As a lot of the truckers with sleepers need to work off of 12V just as boaters, RV'rs etc. Even an RV place may have a 12V coffee/espresso machine.

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That is an incredible boat, no doubt about it. Comparing it to my 1970 43' is laughable - you'd need an old Columbia 57 to even come close to that level of spaciousness. The bosun's locker is wonderful - almost as big as ONE of my cockpit lockers.

I have a couple of questions - how much $$$?

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As usual on Bavarias the boat would be aggressively priced. This boat will come already with a lot of equipment and it will be more expensive than the boat from the cruiser line (45ft). That one costs 175 525 € and the Vision 46 will cost 208 250€, but will have more equipment.

To give an idea of the competition the Jeanneau 45DS costs 224 080€ and the Benetau Oceanis 45 costs 198 370€.

All German prices including 19% VAT. Basic prices at the factory than it has more transport, epoxy barrier antifouling, rigging, launching and extras. I guess that a well equipped boat should cost about 240 000/250 000€.

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Re: What is your opinion of Bavaria's?

Paulo and Marty,
There are 12v espresso machines but they are not perfect if you like an Italian style espresso, simply do not produce enough pressure. The only ones that work really well are the pump types and they are pretty power hungry. I was thinking/hoping that maybe someone had finally come up with a goodun.
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What is going on in the US with the dealer network?
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Re: What is your opinion of Bavaria's?

Some Bavarias that have circumnavigated, I mean the ones that had an internet blog and that had made it on the last 10 years.

Perithia - The story about a world trip with a sailing ship along the Amundsen-Route (north-west)

Hemingway

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Sail-World.com : Bavaria yachts' offshore success

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Yagoona.de - Svenja Zielinski und Marc Panzer

Genuíno Madruga em volta ao Mundo

Well, there is something strange here: Not any of those boats was sailed by an English man or an American and only one was sailed by an English speaking guy, an Australian. It seems that Americans and English men don’t trust Bavarias

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Well, there is something strange here: Not any of those boats was sailed by an English man or an American and only one was sailed by an English speaking guy, an Australian. It seems that Americans and English men don’t trust Bavarias


Paulo,

This should be something to the effect "i seems no North americans will accept that a modern day European built boat can sail the oceans" or some such thing, be it a bavaria, Jeanneau, Beneteau, Finngulf, swan, oyster........need I add more names to the list?!?!?!

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The NAmerican style of boat!LOLOL

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The NAmerican style of boat!LOLOL
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