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Newbie to boat shares

Hello,

Sorry about the newb question, but I'm trying to find information about boat shares, in the NYC area, and I don't find much in the way of resources outside of one-off posts on the internet.

Are there established resources regarding boat shares that your community can recommend?

Also, (once again, forgive the newb-ness) but considering the economy and price of gas, I've seen in the NYC area, a lot of people selling non-sail boats for pretty cheaply. Do you think there's also a market for people who already have boats, but do not have the means to actually use/maintain them and would consider renting them out for the summer months, or is that an insane thought?

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Re: Newbie to boat shares

Few boat owners are going to be comfortable with 'sharing' their little darlings with a self professed novice. You can put an ad on craigslist looking to share a sailboat though I doubt you will get many replies.
If I were you I'd look into this organization: SailNY - New York City's Community Sailing Association
Then there is Sailtime:
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Re: Newbie to boat shares

Caleb's post was my first thought too... Charter companies aren't personally invested in their boats like most owners.. I think that's a long shot.

OTOH a formalized partnership ownership can make a lot of sense. All bills are essentially split, it's not usually too difficult to come up with a mutually agreeable usage schedule, the maintenance work is halved as well.

However just as you wouldn't (at least not immediately) marry someone based on a CL ad, getting into such a partnership is not something I'd advise with total strangers. We were involved in a very successful 15 year partnership with another family.. kids similar ages and a large, powerful boat that needed some crew. The people we partnered with had been sailing with us for several years already and we knew it would be a compatible situation.

It turned out for us that for the most part we cruised/raced together, often with up to 8 aboard during summer (adults and kids). Projects were more affordable and more easily accomplished, and all in all it worked very well for quite a long time. We had to dissolve it only because of a career change and relocation that made it inconvenient, and it was so much boat that neither of us wanted it just for ourselves (both handling wise and moorage bill wise) We've each gone to mid 30 footers and quite happy there - and still cruise together on occasion.

So the difficulty is going to be finding the 'right' situation.. tough to know/achieve with a 'looking for partner' ad. It is not that unusual for existing partnerships to go through changes and be looking for someone new to take a share over, so keep an eye for those ads, primarily in the marine mags etc.
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Re: Newbie to boat shares

Thanks Caleb and Faster,

A lot of info to look into. I'll take a look at the boat share links, maybe I can figure something out. It's just tough in such an ubran locale.

Thanks again for the quick responses!
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Re: Newbie to boat shares

I recommend you check out SailTime (Go Sailing with SailTime Fractional Sailing - Sailing Clubs Redefined). I have a membership in their Toronto base, and I find it works really well. Basically you pay a fee (depending on the size of boat and the amount of access you want, it can vary from a couple thousand to around ten thousand for the year), which entitles you to a certain number of bookings per month. You use their online system to book your times, and the boat is yours for those times. You don't have to do any maintenance, haul-in/haul-out, etc., all you're responsible for is making sure the vessel is clean when you leave.

Their boats are all relatively new (< 5 years old) Hunters, generally 33-41 feet, and well equipped.

As a new sailor, I found it was a great way to get into keelboat sailing without the comittment of buying a boat. I've signed up again for the coming season, although eventually I'd like to transition into owning my own boat.

I just checked the web site, and they have 2 bases in the NY area. Check them out.

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Sound Sailing Center in Norwalk, CT has a share program. I have no experience with them but am told that they enjoy a good reputation.
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