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Re: The Live aboard dream right out of college?

I really appreciate everyone's input , I'm just trying to figure out what I should be looking at, and what I should be saving for, and this is definetly giving me a lot to think about. I just want to put out my firm stances do that you guys know what I'm thinking and can help me from there.

Okay, I really, really, only want to buy one boat and want to make the right choice the first time.

Next, I understand I definetly need more experience, but I also want the ability to use this same boat in my future endeavors.

41' is probably out of my range in terms of $30-40k, and in terms of general maintenance cost BUT, I'm really skeptical that I would be able to complete a transoceanic voyage on anything less than 30' loa and not be miserable in the process.

So, I looked at a lot of the boat examples you guys put out for me, and I really like how spacious the Pearson 30 looks.

So, now that we've narrowed things down a bit, is it better for me to look at Pearson 30's and Catalina 30's or should I step it up to say the 36' area in order to be better suited for future blue water?

Thank you all very much, through none of this have I felt discouraged or put down, but helped. I really like this community thus far.
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Re: The Live aboard dream right out of college?

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Okay, I really, really, only want to buy one boat and want to make the right choice the first time.
But you have different goals, and (hopefully) a differing budget as time goes on...

Too many compromises between the four parameters to nail down one boat to start "and" finish the dream...
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Re: The Live aboard dream right out of college?

There's another book you might want to check out: "Twenty Affordable Sailboats to Take You Anywhere."

According to the description, in this book "you will find in-depth reviews of twenty affordable,comfortable, and seaworthy sailboats."

And best of all, "These boats range in size from 30-38 feet..."

Best of luck.
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Re: The Live aboard dream right out of college?

Skyreep,
First off, medics are a special breed, you go forward when everyone else is taking fire-thank you for your service.

As for your dream, don't let the naysayers discourage you. Lliving aboard is completely feasable. I've been doing it for eight years, year round in New England. Most times I put on a suit and go to work. I live on a mooring three seasons a year and on a dock in the winter. It is infinitely less expensive then living ashore-more challenging too, but very satisfying and fills a need for independence and living closer to the natural world. Not that I would know, but women seem to admire a guy with a boat who lives his dream. Something about being happy is attractive to others.

As for the boat, I live on a Pearson Vanguard, its older and less spacious then more modern designs, but it is robustly built and many have cruised great distances. Three guys your age circumnavigated aboard a Vanguard after graduating from college-so older designs can be beefed up and carry you far. Best of all they can be suitable live aboards and coastal cruisers. If and when you decide to voyage, they can be made suitable for the journey through modest infusions of money and massive amounts of sweat equity.
I bought mine for 10K, have put about that much into her over 10 years and she'll need another 6-8K to be all I'd like before cruising full time. During that time, I have cruised coastally, learned a lot and continually upgraded her. Given the market, you could probably buy a well fitted out Vanguard for 15K with a diesel and decent sails.

She has all the comforts, hot water, reefer, oven, good battery bank and solar that meets all my power requirement three seasons a year. She's insulated from well below the waterline and heated via propane three seasons a year and supplemented with electric during the winter. She was not always as comfortable as she is now, but life is a journey not a destination-getting there is half the fun. The only cautionary advice I have is that none of these upgrades would have been possible if I was paying someone else to do the work. I did it myself by reading books on the subject and asking for lots of advice along the way.

I have water views that are achingly beautiful all while being a somewhat responsible adult. I think you should go for it.
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Re: The Live aboard dream right out of college?

I used to have a Catalina 30 and I liked it a lot. The Pearson is a good boat as well.

That being said, neither were made for serious blue water (out in the middle of the ocean) sailing. Can they sail across the ocean? Yes, but if you run into nasty weather, there's no place to run and hide. Blue water boats are built heavier to withstand ugly weather and usually they have a higher percentage of weight built into the keel to better right the boat after a knock down.
Yes, there are some guys here who will say to go for it....you don't need big expensive boats. But my safety is precious to me and I'm not crossing any oceans in boats that were truely built to be coastal cruisers.
Now, if you want to island hop around the Carribbean, I say go for it as you're pretty much no more than 1 day from any island.
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Re: The Live aboard dream right out of college?

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So, now that we've narrowed things down a bit, is it better for me to look at Pearson 30's and Catalina 30's or should I step it up to say the 36' area in order to be better suited for future blue water?
It's not so much the size that makes a boat blue-water capable, it's also how well it is constructed, the features (large-capapcity water and fuel tanks, interior cabinets designed not to fly open when bouncing over 15 foot seas, handholds,etc), and how skilled the skipper and crew are. There's a couple in this forum who sail the Pacific in an Alben Vega 27 so size isn't everything.

A Catalina 30 from the factory is not designed to go offshore. From the southeast US to the Caribbean, yes, offshore, no. I don't consider going from Florida 50nm to the Bahamas as "offshore." You'll have the room, but you'll have to do some work to get it offshore ready. The interior is also not designed for offshore conditions. You won't have the tankage needed to take one across an ocean. You could certainly use portable tanks but there goes your storage space. It's a coastal cruising boat.

On the other hand, although you said that you only want to buy one boat, Catalinas sell quickly (generally) unless the boat is seriously neglected so you probably wouldn't have a problem living on it now and selling it later for an offshore boat.
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Re: The Live aboard dream right out of college?

So what size is good for crossing an ocean with comfort and most importantly, safety.
Obviously a 41' would be nice; but is a 36' realistic?

I found a nice Hunter 37' and I really like the layout.

And thank you, I'm a NC EMT but it was so hard to find a job, so I enlisted as a 68W, I love it though, just hate needles

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Re: The Live aboard dream right out of college?

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So what size is good for crossing an ocean with comfort and most importantly, safety.
Obviously a 41' would be nice; but is a 36' realistic?
Someone else won't have the same comfort threshold as you. This is a question often asked, but it is a question only you can answer and the best way of doing that is by trying out different boats (begging rides, crewing races, etc. ). Getting opinions on how I like my boat or how anyone else likes his or her boat is a shot in the dark that you'll feel the same way.

Again, there are smaller boats that are perfectly capable of safely crossing an ocean.
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Re: The Live aboard dream right out of college?

You might want to read this thread:

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/genera...able-boat.html
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Re: The Live aboard dream right out of college?

It's not the size, but the design that's important, as several have pointed out. There are some good threads here on features that make a blue water boat good for that job. This post from JeffH, one of our moderators, covers it well: What makes a boat "Blue Water" worthy
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