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BEACH CAT, kind of obvious, nothing will meet your specific requirements so perfectly... a Hobie Getaway, with the wings, is comfortable, lots of deck space, can be picked up for under 5 k, easy to store (no marina fees necessary), sail right onto the beach, no draft to speak of, easy to get in/out of, very seaworthy, fast enough to get you where you want to go, barely any maintenance, etc etc etc etc etc etc, in warm waters where you don't want a cabin and don't mind getting a little wet a largish beach cat will do you perfectly

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There's probably a lot of sailboats that would suit your needs-I'm looking forward to getting my Catalina 27 back there-4' draft doesn't limit things too much, could putter out to the reef in the morning calm, use maybe a gallon or two of gas with the outboard, then sail back after the diving. I'd mount folding tank holders in the cockpit, and at the reef toss the tank/BC/regulator over the side tied to the boat with a line, then enter the water and don that gear once in. And after the dive, tie the gear to the boat, climb the ladder into the boat, and pull the tank etc. back in/up.

There's a Catalina in Craigslist.Seattle for 3500, naturally needs work.

I think you could do the same thing with many of the sailboats about the same size or smaller. It's pretty easy to choose your weather down there-the days you want ot dive won't be the windy ones-the water gets too stirred up and visibility really suffers.

When I was diving down there the thing was to get out to the reef lickety split in the 16' Carolina Skiff with 30 HP Honda-(that probably took only a couple of gallons of gas, too...)

But given more time, I like the sail boat idea.
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Re: Need help finding perfect boat!

One of the respondents emailed me in private for more information, and he suggested that yes, a powerboat is the optimal solution, but say there was no oil, and sailing was the only choice. It caused me to think a little harder on a sailboat as a solution. Even though not optimal, it still is certainly viable for you, properly setup.

I'm not suggesting a catamaran. I suggested a "catboat"....little workhorse of a sailboat used for decades by fisherman. They have small ones with large, open cockpits, to medium sized boats with cuddy cabins and large, open cockpits. They're rock solid, great sailors (not the fastest boats) and very reliable under a myriad of conditions. There's a very good reason(s) they were so popular with Cape Cod fishermen for so many years. If you're set on a "working" sailboat, a little catboat, properly outfitted, would serve you well.

Finding one in your price range though, may be a bit tough unless you find a little gem in need of alot of TLC...so the investment would be time, labor, and a few dozen trips to Walmart, Home Depot and Pep Boys. As many of them there are though....gotta be one somewhere for you.
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BEACH CAT, kind of obvious, nothing will meet your specific requirements so perfectly... a Hobie Getaway, with the wings, is comfortable, lots of deck space, can be picked up for under 5 k, easy to store (no marina fees necessary), sail right onto the beach, no draft to speak of, easy to get in/out of, very seaworthy, fast enough to get you where you want to go, barely any maintenance, etc etc etc etc etc etc, in warm waters where you don't want a cabin and don't mind getting a little wet a largish beach cat will do you perfectly
Respectfully, they are called BEACH cats for a reason. They are NOT "very seaworthy", they don't have much of a payload compared to a monohull of similar size, and since everything is ON the boat, not IN the boat, Anything that isn't strapped down is gone the first time she digs into a wave as you attempt to tack.

if you're gonna suggest a cat, a Wharram Tiki 21 might be a better choice, like this:

Wharram Catamarans For Sale, News, and Blogs: Tiki 21 For Sale In San Fransisco


If the OP isn't afraid of wood, and if he likes the idea of a green boat, there are few greener than a sustainable wood boat... easy to repair, durable, lower impact construction than a full fiberglass boat.

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To the OP... Sorry, t'was I who started the powerboat thing.. half in jest (though a whaler would be the 'best suited idea')

Certainly you could make do with a number of largish-cockpit daysailers and I do applaud your desire to sail out and back. The difficulty is going to be rigging a decent ladder on such a boat for a diver with gear, flippers, etc that's actually going to work. Any diver will tell you sailboats suck as a dive platform.

I hope you find something that can be made to work.

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Faster, that's another reason I suggested the Chrysler 20. Ladder comes factory through bolted to transom


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scuba sail 74 Thanks for the water temp info hear in Ky freshwater even in the summer at 85 air temp It is nice to crawl in a hot car that has been in the sun windows up stay in touch let me know what you try out for a sailboat. In a few years I plan on the sailing in your wake lol. I have noticed more divers looking at the wind and thinking gee its free and green. Most of us that have gone under the surface see how much it means to take steps to help the earth. Sailors seem to notice as with anyone that gets outside for fun and recreation. Who knows in a few years a sail/dive boat may be built? The members on this form will go all out to try to find a good ansewer for you. They will not be yes men. They will tax and push to help you make a good choice. Even though a sailboat is not the best They want to make sure you know what the compromise will be and if you like the compromise you will be happy. I have put some thought into using the boom to help get on board. Joe said gear might be hauled up and this might be a good thing to do as practice for dive skills. My son and me like exchange bcd tanks and regs underwater as a skill not just in the pool where its to easy.
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Yeah, the one that takes the barrel is scuba diving... it's not an ideal situation - getting in and out of small weekender is tough... trying to find the wind and the water... somewhat of a unique task, we'll see if it is ultimately feasible or not...

I haven't been in the Keys for over a year... so far conditions are quite predictable with everyday technology at hand/screen. What's the old saying, "Stick to the plan Stan"... I think Morgan Friedman did another version later on... As long as considerations are considered and the plan is followed through, then the only thing you have to worry about is your least expectations in the most unfavorable conditions... and if that's the case, you're already married so what's the hubbub all about?
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I will add this ... 5 k is a lot of $ but at the same time it is not so much $. A lot of used cars and trucks even motorbikes cost twice that. If you have a problem you can stop set the parking brake, get out and walk away. You may not have to wait for help a good soul might be in the very place you stop on the side of the road. Weather should not be a factor short of something like a tornado. You have increased your risk factor some already because you are on your are making a new trip and dive plan with equipment that is out of the normal. You will be learning testing as you go. This might be better than someone who is complacent. My point is be sure to spend enough to be safe. Take some extra crew/divers along I am sure you are planing that is why you spent time on this thread Good luck !

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