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Re: Not Sure Wich Winch to use



Looking at your picture, the item labeled "Jib winch?" is the jib sheet winch.

The item labeled "Mainsheet winch" is intended for the main halyard (the line that raises the sail) and for the Boom Vang, which is not rigged at the moment, and perhaps for the spinnacker sheets when racing.

The item labeled "What is this for? Is it for holding the Jib Sheet tight for sailing alone?" appears to be linestopper for the spinnaker sheet/guy. It is intended to be fed from the stern(Back of the boat). You have time for that one.


My best guess looking at the pile of stuff is that the previous owner used the white snatch blocks attached to the car on the track as his jibsheet lead block.

I am guessing that the three blocks with the red flecked- white line reeved through them is your boom vang which should use the same deck organizer as the main halyard and one of the three stoppers forward of the winch.
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You really do need to get hold of someone with experience willing to go out with you for an hour or two and set you straight on the basics...
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I agree with your advice 100%. Seeing the sheet lead in the post 28 picture is a stark reminder how what may seem basic can be not apparent when you are learning on the go.

An even better approach would be the full ASA 101 class, then the risks would be far more under control.

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I do thank all of you for your advice. I am seeking help from some local sailor friends. I am learning a great deal from this site as well. I do not take any affiance at all, I'm new to this sport and my sail on Sunday humbled me to no end. It was a windy day like 12 to 15 out of the south. We did o.k but, I could tell we were doing all kind things wrong. I could tell the running rigging had a problem getting stuck on the drum of the winch. We had 3 accidental jibes were the boom swung from one side to the other. I told my help on the main to center the boom and he did not. I think thatís what broke all the slugs off the main along the mast. Iím taking lessons right now. Well not really. I have tried around here for lesions but they donít have them here. They do have them in Charleston or Savannah but not here in Beaufort SC. So I will learn like many fine sailors before me. I will go slow, I will not take too many risk with weather and tide, I will ask for advice and I will ask for every sailor friend I can make to go sailing with me. I can do this. If all else fails I still have a great yanmay main sail to get me home.
Donít loose faith my friends , I can do this. And thanks again so much for your experience and willingness to share it with a new sailor wishing to learn the ropes without braking the boat.
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You really do need to get hold of someone with experience willing to go out with you for an hour or two and set you straight on the basics.

It would be well worth the couple of hundred bucks it would cost to hire an instructor for the day to show you the systems. You've got a good boat with very good gear that just needs to be set up correctly. Otherwise I'm afraid someone's going to get hurt first.

Understand this is not a put-down.. you're new and you really need some help - I suspect much of the advice here on this thread is of limited use if only because you don't yet even understand the terminology.
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Thanks so much for your help. Here is short of the Sunday trip.
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Re: Not Sure Wich Winch to use

Itgoshen your next weekend assignment is: Take more pictures of your rig. I would like to get a clearer picture of the area around your primary (cockpit) winches, the “T” track on your weather (“side”) decks, the winches and rope clutches on your coach roof, the base of your mast and some shots of your boom vang and mainsheet control. That way I can help you out a little bit better. On your next go pro video, try not to move around so much and wait a little before you pan to your next subject – I want to see how your sails are working without getting seasick on my keyboard.

From what I’ve seen (and what others have told you), you need to have a lead block between the jib and your winch. Also, you need to position the block so as you sight up the jibsheet, it intersects the headstay at its midpoint. The way you are set up now, this intersection is way too low and that is why the top of the jib is flopping around. Set this up correctly and you will be amazed at the improvement. Looking forward to future pictures and videos.
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That's a start.. but not really inclusive and not detailed enough for most of what we're trying to tell/show you. But hang in there.. with all the advice you're getting now and a bit of personal on-board guidance all will become clear.
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Looking forward to future pictures and videos.
sorry for the sea sicknessHAhAh.
Take a look at this video start at 1.40 into it to see the mast bottom and house top.
maybe turn doun your speekers first Sorry

I will get petter photos This weekend

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Re: Not Sure Wich Winch to use

By the way I was wrong about my guess that the three blocks with the red flecked- white line reeved through them is your boom vang. The video shows a very nice rigid boom vang which does not appear to be set.


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Re: Not Sure Wich Winch to use

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By the way I was wrong about my guess that the three blocks with the red flecked- white line reeved through them is your boom vang. The video shows a very nice rigid boom vang which does not appear to be set.
You will still need a vang to adjust the boom height. Check this video of another C&C 30 (25 seconds in). Actually it shows without running the video.


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