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sevseasail 04-19-2012 08:42 AM

Choosing a slip at the Marina
 
So we are going to keep the boat during the season at the Holiday Marina on lake Lanier. Hopefully we can launch her on Saturday (Insurance pending and holding us at this time....).

The marina gave me three slips to chose from.
The fist one is on a mainly sailboats dock with no electricity (the particular slip that's available to me), a bunch of rotted boards on the deck on both sides of the finger (as per the contract you accept the condition of the slip as is...), it has no water, no electric but it does have a storage box. Also, it's the most expensive.

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It will be the first one on the left.

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The second is on a dock with over 80 large house boats and it will be located right off the access ramp on the left side. I'm concerned whit how much foot traffic will be on this part of the dock with all those huge house boats on the dock. It has water and electric.

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The third one is on a mix dock with Sailboats and powerboats, and it will be towards the right end of the dock, it has electric and water.

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They are all well protected and also at the inner ends of the marina which means a lot of in marina motoring before getting to the open water, good as far as the protection but a pain to navigate through the docks.

I told them I was interested on the third one, of course now I'm trying to get a 30 y/o boat insured.....

MarioG 04-19-2012 08:58 AM

Re: Choosing a slip at the Marina
 
The third slip seems to be a good choice as does the second due to any liveaboards would be able to keep an eye on your boat.
I'm not sure why you would have any problem getting insurance, All 3 of my sailboats where over 30 yrs old and I have never had a problem getting insurance. have you talked to TowBoat US the have great boat insurance plans that will cover everything. You also might check with your home and auto providers.

H and E 04-19-2012 09:02 AM

Re: Choosing a slip at the Marina
 
Something else to consider is the prevailing wind and the direction of the slip. Having the bow to the wind is helpful when arriving.
I use both water and electric at the slip so that would be a must.
My slip is before a large power boat area and so far the traffic on the dock has not been an issue. Typically we go out on weekdays and occasionally on Sunday and the boating season is just getting started so traffic will probably increase.

sevseasail 04-19-2012 09:09 AM

Re: Choosing a slip at the Marina
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MarioG (Post 860502)
I'm not sure why you would have any problem getting insurance,

Thank you !!

I'm not having problems, just that with all the excitement I did not think of it and now is holding me from putting her in the water.
I already have a couple of quotes from BoatUS and waiting for my local guy to see what he can come up with.

sevseasail 04-19-2012 09:13 AM

Re: Choosing a slip at the Marina
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H and E (Post 860506)
Something else to consider is the prevailing wind and the direction of the slip. Having the bow to the wind is helpful when arriving.
I use both water and electric at the slip so that would be a must.
My slip is before a large power boat area and so far the traffic on the dock has not been an issue. Typically we go out on weekdays and occasionally on Sunday and the boating season is just getting started so traffic will probably increase.

Good point, I did not think of that, I'll have to check the orientation of the slip.

As far as the traffic, I suspect on this lake with 80 + houseboats in the 50Ft + range there will be a lot of traffic, also did noticed that there are quite few liveaboards on that dock.

Thank you!!

ccriders 04-19-2012 10:05 AM

Re: Choosing a slip at the Marina
 
The second choice is the worst. When the power boats start moving about there will be quite a bit of wave action (even in a no wake zone) and your boat will be rubbing up against its fenders and the dock. Eventually you will see the results of this. Also, with the cost of fuel, you will probably find those house boats don't go out very often and become a venue for beer parties. The noise will get to you over time.
If you want to do any work on your boat while it is in the water, you will need electricity. Water can be carried in, but not 30 amps of AC. Also, keeping your batteries charged up with shore power is great for weekenders.
If you can get the prevailing winds on the nose or stern you will be much more comfortable while you are in the slip.
Marina operators are not always up front about what slips are really available and try to sell the least desireable first. I don't know how you beat that one, but maybe some long termers can clue you in.
Have fun sailing,
John

jdpmus 04-19-2012 10:18 AM

Re: Choosing a slip at the Marina
 
I was also concerned about insurance. My homeowners policy covers boats, but the marina conglomerate wanted to be on the policy as an additional insured. Hartford said no.

Went to a friend who's an independent agent and got a policy from Progressive for $100 per year. Added comprehensive last year for an additional $70 per year.

BTW, my boat's 38 years old.

JoeDiver 04-19-2012 10:31 AM

Re: Choosing a slip at the Marina
 
Third one is the best choice by far.

No water/electric in the first one? Bzzzzz!

Foot traffic, placement, orientation, houseboat parties...second one...Bzzzzz!

Third one looks just right....good dock placement, water and electric, well protected.....

Also check how deep the water is under your slip. Don't know about your lake, but in Texas lake levels can fluctuate quite a bit over the summer, and what is just fine in April can have you aground in August. One of the marina's on my lake got so shallow last year they towed all of the docks out into the slough to deeper water. My lake dropped about 7' last year (it's full again) and that was alot for my lake....but other lakes fared worse. I think Lake Travis dropped 35'+!

jdpmus 04-19-2012 10:54 AM

Re: Choosing a slip at the Marina
 
I'll second JoeDiver's advice. Our lake fared better than his, dropping maybe 5 feet but I'm lucky in that even though I'm closest to the walkway and parking lot, it's still about 20 feet of water under the hull.

Our marina sponsors parties and concerts during the season, but they all shut down by 10.

sevseasail 04-19-2012 12:28 PM

Re: Choosing a slip at the Marina
 
Thank you all for pitching in.

I'm working with boatus insurance, they can get me a full coverage policy that includes the trailer and the outboard for $203 a year (also liability only for $143) I thought it was pretty good, my local guy came up with liability only at $270...
Waiting on Boat us to send me the proof of insurance so I can go to the marina and get the slip.

As far as the third slip there's plenty of water under the dock, at least 15 ft at the current level of the lake (which is pretty low, don't know exactly how low). Also there are only a hand full of boats on the dock, I don't anticipate hundreds of people coming by every weekend for about 15/20 boats.


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