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I will be posting the oar results on my blog. The Oar Club was here is Bellingham but it seems all the sailors have shipped out. Interesting point, the Oar Club had an annual race and not one boat with a fitted engine finished it, they all gave up and motored home.
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You just have to get good at asking others for a tow
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You just have to get good at asking others for a tow
And lucky to have one nearby as a tanker with right of way over a sailboat is bearing down on you in zero wind in a narrow channel.


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I had an engineless FolkBoat in Miami when I was in my 20's. I made a very long oar out of a 2 x 4 (horizontal on the power stroke) and some plywood. I used the starboard side winch as a tholepin and a loop of line hung over the winch to keep the oar from wandering. I rowed standing up and facing forward, but the Folkboat has a very deep cockpit. I would tie tiller slightly over to port and could vary the speed and hardness of the strokes to get the boat to turn one way or the other. It was not easy to start the boat moving, and was useless in tight quarters, but worked fine once the boat was moving forward. I don't recall rowing upwind in a breeze but then again, the folkboat was a pretty good light air boat and so if there was a breeze, I could sail her.
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Sculling oar can do marvels once you master it, but you won't get much speed out of it. Pair of sweeps are easier to handle, but are less useful in close quarters, as Jeff points out above.
Have a look here: A Pearson Ariel Page. The Oar Club guy is known as
Amazon.com: Wind and Tide: An Introduction to Cruising in Pure Sailing Craft (9780595217335): Jerome FitzGerald: Books Amazon.com: Wind and Tide: An Introduction to Cruising in Pure Sailing Craft (9780595217335): Jerome FitzGerald: Books


. Quite opinionated reading, but fun and informative.
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Once you said his name, I remembered the Furled Sails podcast did a two part interview with him (that's where I first heard of him) that was fun to listen to. I forgot about the book, I'll put it on my wish list.

While the Furled Sails podcast is no longer being produced there episodes are still available online. I may have to go back and listen to them all again as it's been awhile and I', running low on good commute podcasts. Here's the links to the episodes if you want to check them out....

FurledSails.com Podcast #141 Jay Fitzgerald
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I never had an engine on my Chrysler C-22, (what a great experiance) then sailed my Chrysler C-26 from Norfolk Va to Orienta Nc (180 miles) when I bought it.

I don't mind sailing slow, as they say sailing there is 90% of the fun the other 10% involves rum.
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I daysail and weekend a modified engineless 30 ft Shield one design from Lopez Island in the San Juan's. I have a bunch of info about sailing without an engine on my blog.

I have been sailing this way for about 6 years and don't row much any more. Mostly it is about having a great sailing boat with the ability to pile on the sail and figuring out how to work with the wind and tides. Great fun and a rewarding challenge. Not for everyone to be sure, but I enjoy it.

Let me know if you have any specific questions.

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I spent ten years sailing two keelboats (20' & 26') without engines. It is challenging and somewhat restricting, but also rewarding. I didn't sail on busy weekends or holidays due to inlet traffic. I also used a long oar, but only in a calm. I found I could manage the inlet sailing with either wind or current opposing, but not both. On the south shore of Long Island summer breezes are pretty reliable. watch for sea breezes that start midmorning and end around sunset. Have good ground tackle. Keep a little food and water aboard, you might be becalmed overnight. Don't push right of way, be safe and considerate.
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I spent ten years sailing two keelboats (20' & 26') without engines. It is challenging and somewhat restricting, but also rewarding. I didn't sail on busy weekends or holidays due to inlet traffic. I also used a long oar, but only in a calm. I found I could manage the inlet sailing with either wind or current opposing, but not both. On the south shore of Long Island summer breezes are pretty reliable. watch for sea breezes that start midmorning and end around sunset. Have good ground tackle. Keep a little food and water aboard, you might be becalmed overnight. Don't push right of way, be safe and considerate.
Lots of good advice in this post, although I would take any wind direction other than dead astern if I have to make way against a a current. Even tacking close hauled as our boat quickly overcomes most currents in light winds with the wind forward of the beam. My typical exit from our mooring is dead downwind against a strengthing flood current. Pretty dicey at times. Or channel is about 180 ft wide and is a run out and a tacking dual back in. The down side is the tourist cafe on the bank that ensures a captive audience should you mess up and go aground.

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