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Question Mooring dance - Would you do this?

I need some advice here please.

Naturally this is an entirely hypothetical situation.

You live in an area where the average mooring wait time appears to be about ten years and there are no slips anywhere close but you bought the damned boat anyway.....

The brother of a good friend is entitled to put in a mooring in front of his waterfront house. He does not plan to own a boat.

You could use the mooring IF 1. You 'sell' him a small piece of the boat and get his name on the title. 2. you pay to put the mooring in and maintain it (he gets it when you quit / move on).

Sounds sort-of OK but it feels like there are lots of traps. what are the legal implications? What are the insurance implications? How much liability is he picking up/ would he need his own insurance? and so on....

Any input, particularly direct experience, would be very much appreciated.

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Re: Mooring dance - Would you do this?

I am unfamiliar with new England mooring law and etiquette so i beg forgiveness if this is a dumb question, but why would he need to be on title to the boat for you to sink a mooring in front of his house? It seems to me that you buy the mooring gear, sink it, maintain it and insure your boat in return for right to enjoy said mooring. if he wants a piece of something, it seems he should charge you a token fee for seasonal mooring, not become part owener of your boat.

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Re: Mooring dance - Would you do this?

Not knowing the laws is tough, but in Canada unless the property owner also holds a waterlot lease he wouldn't have any rights in that regard.

Signing over part of the boat seems extreme. Leaving the mooring behind maybe not so much...

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Re: Mooring dance - Would you do this?

We are kind of new to this too but apparently there are no more new general moorings allowed (thus the enormous waiting time) BUT if you own waterfront property you are entitled to place a mooring by default. The catch is, even if you are entitled to put in a mooring, you can only put a boat on it if you can demonstrate some ownership of said boat. you are absolutely not allowed to lease your mooring out.

Does that clarify things at all?
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Re: Mooring dance - Would you do this?

Ah. okay. Then, in return, I would expect that he buys the mooring from you at the point at which you permanently vacate the mooring or he sells the property.
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Re: Mooring dance - Would you do this?

buy your friends house put in the mooring, moor the boat, lease the friend the house, easy as pie.
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Re: Mooring dance - Would you do this?

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Waterfront? On the river? I wish..... It has been in their family a looong time.

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I'm not really worried about the disposition of the mooring. That would be well worth the deal. what bothers me are the implications of shared title, insurance, liability etc. Both for me and the guy doing me an enormous favor.

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Re: Mooring dance - Would you do this?

If he wanted your boat he would have one of his own by now so I don't see that he would really want your boat or try to take it from you. I see it as a very easy agreement to make with a friend. It doesn't have to be all that intimidating. Unless the powers that be are extremely difficult and aware of people trying get "over" on the "system"

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Re: Mooring dance - Would you do this?

Ok try this get a 30 year no Occupancy lease on the home, lease it for 100$ for the 30 years. If your a legal lease holder can you then moor on a ball on the property?
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