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Mid June I'm departing Cape May, stopping in Atlantic City, then headed to NY City.

I know some of the inlets can be tough getting in and out of.

Is it possible to do AC to NYC without doing an overnight stretch?

Is there an easy in/out inlet about half way?

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Re: NJ Coast

Why stop in AC it's only 27 miles. We do this route every summer. Cape May to Barneget Inlet. 70 miles. Then Barneget to NYC. 54 miles. Bavrneget is a dangerous inlet but with proper knowledge doable. Only other good NJ inlet is Manessquan. Feel free to pm me.

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Re: NJ Coast

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Yes, There's just enough daylight this time of year to do AC to NYC in a long day.
Leaving at dawn, it's roughly 70 miles from the red and white buoy at AC to the Entrance to the Sandy Hook Channel. On June 15th, the sunrise is about 5:30 am and set is about 8:30 p.m. With 1/2 hr. of light on either side, you have about 16 hours of light. From the entrance to Sandy Hook Channel, you'll still need a couple of hours to get to an anchorage or a slip.

When you say NYC as a destination, There's not much there in NYC in terms of accomodations for sailboats. So, your options are usually one of the marinas in Jersey City, The Atlantic Highlands, Great Kills on Staten Island.. and maybe a few anchorage spots. ( horseshoe cove behind SH, or behind the Statue of L.
What did you have in mind?

Both Barnegat and Manesquan have their challenges, but both are manageable. if your goal is to avoid them, I think your plan to go from AC to NYC is doable with the right weather window, and an early departure. The prevailing winds are SW which could help speed you along on a good day.
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Re: NJ Coast

Why not just get out past shipping lanes and do an overnighter? If you time it right, you could be in NY Harbor early morning. Just get a lot of sleep before-hand, have a lot of coffee ready and plan on staying up for 20 hrs. The entire stretch has potential traffic any time of the day/night so it is no place to catnap.

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We did Cape May to Sandy Hook easily in June in our Irwin Citation 34 in one long day. No overnighter at all.

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Re: NJ Coast

Rik, you must have been flying! It's about 150+ miles NY Harbor/ Sandy Hook->>Cape May. At an average 6 knots, I figure the trip at approx. 24 hours, not possible in daylight for me.

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Re: NJ Coast

Let's get the math straight first, eh fellahs?
It is closer to 120 nm from the mouth of Cape May harbor to Sandy Hook.
If a sailboat can maintain an average speed of 5 knots then it can sail 120 nm in 24 hours.
Having just done this trip with 3 experienced sailors on a 32' sailboat I can say that it is a long trip and tiring but I am glad to have done it. We left CM about 5:30am and put down a hook near the tip of Sandy Hook at 7 am, so it actually took us longer then 24 hours. Any stopover point would make the trip much more bearable.

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"If a sailboat can maintain an average speed of 5 knots then it can sail 120 nm in 24 hours. "
A nice theory, which ignores the fact that a sailboat must often tack. If you're going upwind and tacking, your "linear" distance multiplies by a little over 1.4 and your distance through the water, the distance you actually will be going, becomes 120*1.4 which is 168 miles. Making their estimate of 150 miles actually quite conservative.

Don't neglect the effect of shore currents on groundspeed, either.

Personally, I assume the wind will be dead on the bow for at least 1/3 of any trip, and use the "motorboat miles" as just a starting point for how long it will take to SAIL the same course.
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We had the wind with us the entire trip, left after breakfast, and anchored just before 0300.

We were motor sailing - probably going 6+ knots the whole way. There were three of us.

OK - I just looked it up:
113.965 nautical miles
Left 08:24 May 21, 2009
Anchored 02:40 May 22, 2009
Elapsed time 18 hours and 16 minutes
Average speed 6.2413 nautical miles per hour.
OK - It was a long day - getting old, forgetting things!

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Re: NJ Coast

Thanks for the replies, all very helpful.

The reasons for not wanting to do an overnight trip are various;

-I would like to see some of the sights down the Jersey coast. This will probably be my only opportunity in the near future.
-My only crew member may be single handing down the coast in the fall and might like a preview of safe inlets.
-I'm not gonna be in a hurry so why not try a few restaurants and have a hot shower everly night.
-Eight hour stretches is more than enough for both of us.
-It's a new (to me) boat so I'm expecting a few glitches.

My ultimate destination is Mystic, CT. however, I would like to see the Statue of Liberty from my boat and cruise the west end of Long Island Sound on my way back. Otherwise, it would probably be much faster to head straight from Cape May to Orient Point.

As I'm sure you all know, sometimes it's all about the voyage, not the destination.
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