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Re: How Far Do You Heel...?

That's a fine vessel Jeff. I could enjoy that boat at any heel angle.
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Re: How Far Do You Heel...?

Coming from you that means a lot. If you find yourself near Annapolis, I would be delighted to sail with you.

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Yeah but,,,,your water is so thin it scares me. I've sailed there. It's terrifying.

Count on it Jeff.
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Re: How Far Do You Heel...?

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Yeah but,,,,your water is so thin it scares me. I've sailed there. It's terrifying.

Count on it Jeff.
Especially terrifying in a one of those new fangled fragile fiberglass thangs....

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Re: How Far Do You Heel...?

Although 30 is fun as we berry the rail..but usually 15 to 18 work best for my full keel
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Re: How Far Do You Heel...?

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Re: How Far Do You Heel...?

To BobP... I think we agree more than we disagree. Certainly about heel angle.

Regardless to the OP... experiment with what is most efficient with your boat for any particular wind... push the boat (when you are comfortable), but do so only with respect to crew!

These boats can usually take more of a beating that we can!
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Re: How Far Do You Heel...?

going on the "depends on the boat" It also depends on when the boat was designed and built. Most Alberg and the like are very "wet" in that they like to heel over. This was designed in as a way to make the boat longer as your speed in the water is determined in part by your length at the waterline. Boats with long overhangs get longer the further they heel.

More modern boats with plumb bows and reverse transoms don't need to heel to go faster, they generally seem to sail more upright (and go like hell compared to us old full keelers).

I am unsure on the transitional years
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Re: How Far Do You Heel...?

Since now I'm sailing a monohull I find that past 20 degrees makes my non-gimballed cup holders less efficient if holding a full rum and coke.

Therefore, from a performance and efficiency point of view I tend to keep my heel below 20 degrees by trimming the sails with the iron genny.
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Re: How Far Do You Heel...?

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That's the traditional theory anyway. But the next time you are heeled over look over the bow and the stern and see just how much of your boat is immersed. If it's not in the water it's not doing anything to extend the sailing length. This effect or imagined effect is over rated. I don't care that it has been standard theory for years. Overhangs are the result of old rating rules and are marginally effective at best.
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