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Re: Do you personally get seasick?

I don't get sick in the Bay (well haven't yet, maybe a little queasy) but something about the motion of the ocean doesn't sit well w/ me. Even light conditions make me unsettled.
That said, I agree, just puke it out and get it over w/. The couple of times I've done so it cured the problem.
I also (usually) put on a Scopalamine patch which is good for 3 days. After 1.5 days I can take it off and I'm fine. Have even been in some nasty stuff after this course of action and was perfectly fine. It gives my body time to adjust to the motion and barring something unusual I don't need any other treatment.
You might also tried DRIED GINGER. Get it at Whole Foods or other quality grocery store. It's pretty strong but sucking on that like a hard candy helps!
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Do you personally get seasick?

The smaller the boat and fewer obstructions to the horizon there are the less likely I get sick. I am more likely to get sick on other peoples boats when I am not moving around and looking up. I've had luck with those SeaBands that apply pressure to your wrists and the OTC drug bonine. (I think that's the name).
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Re: Do you personally get seasick?

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In 30 years I never have, but I won't presume that means I never will.
Me too.

I feel for the others though.
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Re: Do you personally get seasick?

You say, "So far I've tried meclizne (sp?) dramamine and I think benzodrine. They all seem to help, but put me to sleep quickly and for a long time."

Fifty years boating - never once. And then ...

A huge big catamaran - two hour trip out to Opal Reef for diving on the Great Barrier Reef. Twelve foot swells and boy, did I get sick!

Same trip four days later and Gary (the dive master) gave me a pill called Kwells at breakfast (In the USA Bonine has the same ingredients) - No seasickness, nothing, no queasiness, no tiredness, no side affects at all! It is chewable and tastes ok.

It is now a standard part of the boat's medicine cabinet.

Linda and I both have "Tilley" hats and we both keep some Bonine in the little hat pocket.

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Re: Do you personally get seasick?

Holy Cow! I didn't know there was a pocket in the top of the Tilley hat! After I read your post rikhall, I went and looked at my hat! There is a surprise in there and everything!!
I have not yet gotten seasick, but I learned something cool today! What a great day -- even if we are talking about puking...
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Re: Do you personally get seasick?

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Is it possible to get seasick non-personally? Maybe vicariously through others? Sounds better than doing it yourself.
Well, I've seen lots of posts about "my wife uses X" or "I once had a crew who was sick Y days"

I'm more interested in knowing from people who get sea sick and are still able to run the boat day in and day out. I mean I know I can 'do it' I never missed a watch on that 12 day run, but I also spent a night in the hospital in San Diego, and I'd rather not ever do it again

I think my 12 day thing was montezuma's or something like it, but I'm not sure. On this most recent trip, I've been sick every single time we've hit open water. But fine the rest, and I was thinking after 20 days of small motion on a boat a little big motion on day 22 would not affect me but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Now, having said all that, I'm on a big boat. On the plus, it's got mass and stabilizers etc. The downside is that my cabin is 15 or 20' off the water so the motion is amplified, and I have not spent hardly any time at the helm.

But the whole thing has kinda knocked the wind out of my sails if you'll excuse the pun. I'm wondering if I shouldn't pursue a different life's dream.
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Re: Do you personally get seasick?

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Thanks everyone for the responses. So far I've tried mescaline (sp?) dramamine and I think benzodrine. They all seem to help, but put me to sleep quickly and for a long time. My 'plan' is to single hand so this obviously won't work.

So I'm reluctant to try vallium too because I think it zonks me out pretty completely.

I've also taken alavert, claratin and benodryl for pollen allergies I have, and I don't *think* they work, but I usually only take them inland where the pollen is

I do get sick in a car if I try to use a laptop for too long. I don't get sick in planes, but as a child I would barf every time so I guess I'm 'prone' to getting motion sick.

I'm also pretty adverse to meds you have to apply beforehand. I mean if you are departing a trip offshore, and take that to get over the initial period, are you fine afterward or are you just delaying the sick part & taking meds 24/7 on a long passage?

I guess the bottom line is I'd hate to spend a few years fixing up a boat and then selling it the day I get to Hawaii (assuming I survive 30 days of vomit)
The first time I went sailing I was fine on deck, but went below to make coffee for the skipper and lost my lunch, quickly went back on deck. After a few days was ok. Over the years, now I rarely get sea sick. I think the important thing is not to dwell on seasickness, wondering if you will get sick or not and what you will do if you get sick. Don't worry too much about it. If you feel sick and want to puke, then grab a bucket and do it, don't be shy. Don't worry what the skipper or crew think, just have a good puke. The worst thing you can do is to hold it in. Sometimes after a good puke and dry heave you feel great, go up in the wind and spray and breath the air and eat some soda crackers. Stay away from dairy products and grease food and meat and fruits. Eat pasta, breads, crackers, water and such. I try to stay away from medications.

I once did a three week passage with a mate that got sea sick the first day out, he laid in his bunk for 2-1/2 weeks without eating much but crackers and drinking some water. He had taken every med known and had wrists bands on and ear patches. His gums had turned white and we were all concerned about his health (he probably should have be evacuated of the boat), the last few days on the boat he overcame the sea sickness and began to recover. Funny thing was this guy never puked, probably would have fared better if he had puked the first few days and gotten over it.

I would take say a 5 day sail as a crew on boat type you are thinking of buying and see how you make out before you start on the big adventure.

I should also say when I am sailing, I do not feel the same as on land. My appetite is less and I only want to eat simple things like I mentioned. Maybe this is my natural response to fighting "sea sickness". Whatever you feel you need to do, do not fight it, that goes for what you feel like eating or if you feel you need to puke, just do what you feel you need to do.

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Re: Do you personally get seasick?

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Well, I've seen lots of posts about "my wife uses X" or "I once had a crew who was sick Y days"

I'm more interested in knowing from people who get sea sick and are still able to run the boat day in and day out. I mean I know I can 'do it' I never missed a watch on that 12 day run, but I also spent a night in the hospital in San Diego, and I'd rather not ever do it again

I think my 12 day thing was montezuma's or something like it, but I'm not sure. On this most recent trip, I've been sick every single time we've hit open water. But fine the rest, and I was thinking after 20 days of small motion on a boat a little big motion on day 22 would not affect me but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Now, having said all that, I'm on a big boat. On the plus, it's got mass and stabilizers etc. The downside is that my cabin is 15 or 20' off the water so the motion is amplified, and I have not spent hardly any time at the helm.

But the whole thing has kinda knocked the wind out of my sails if you'll excuse the pun. I'm wondering if I shouldn't pursue a different life's dream.
I am going to be bluntly honest with you. Please take it as such.

You need to make sure you can handle that boat thoughtfully before singlhanding. As many know, I end up SH (single Handing) a LOT offshore or passages. I personally believe you are a lot less of a liability being sleepy or not being able to focus through binocs than puking and dehydrated.

I ask ANYONE gonig on a passage with me how sea sick prone they are. 48 hours.... you ain't going. Meet me there on the plane. I cannot SH and take care of you and be responsible for me too and the boat and the kids. That does not work for me. I know of NO experienced sailor who would dissagree with that who has had a really MS person on board.

Now, that being said, I have personally used: Scopolamine, Valium, Phenegren, Ginger, and Pepermint. Valium and Phen do not bother me like most people. My uses were for somethin completely different (one was a kidney stone... ugh), but the effect were the same. With Phen, I get a tad bit sleepy, but still fairly alert.

Try the scopolamine first. It is a partch behind the ear. Eash cheesy. It may make you a little fuzzy headed, it may not. The ral issue with Scope is the ability to focus on small objects (reading a book, small writing on maps, focusing on small items through binocs). Start with it on land first. It isn't like this stuff is crack cocaine or something (grin). Try it. THen try it on the boat on a short run. Do be aware, that Scope does not stop after you take off the patch. I would guess you will have the effects for circa 6 hours afterwards. Be careful with it around kids. It is absorbed through the skin, so just picking it up will put it in your blood stream. But again, I don't think scope is a big deal at all and I cruise with kids. I take my safety and caution to a whole different level.

Phen can come in a suppository and also ODT and oral. It is not a big deal either. Try it land based first but put yourself in a position where you are doing something that requires some thinking (play a video game for example). I think you will find the drug side efects are mild. Check with your doctor on this, but I think the dosage for phen is 25-50 mg for adults, and 12.5 for kids. Phen is not addicitive too and worse case scenario you get sleepy - but it did not do that to me. THe ODT (orally dissolving tabs) are good because they cannot be thrown up and the suppositoruies the same.

Another good trick is eating and keeping a full stomach when sailing. That helps me and the kids. Keep lots of snacks like crackers and cheese. Toast is also good. Avoid spicy stuff. We actually fix several meals and put in freezer/fridge ahead of time because cooking at sea is a PITA. SOo there is another good hint. Also, drink LOTS of gatorade. It hydrates and the taste always helps us. Not too sweet but not too bland. Hydration at sea plus sea sickness is seerious business.

Ginger is not my drug of choice. Makes me burp and that always reminds me of the puking ginger smell and well... there you go. My wife swears by it. Each tot heir own. Point is that everyone has to find what works for them. SHe also wears a patch as do I for long runs. Better safe than sorry.

Get a bucket lined with multiple bags. I use a 5 gallon bucket. This is important because you can get the vomit out of sight and smell. ALso, nothing more dangerous than SH and puking over the side of the boat. When you are puking and sea sick, you are not thinkin straight.

SIgns of sea sick include lethargic, being quiet, no interest in looking around or doing things, watering mouth. The lethargic and lack of interst in doing anythin is th first sign that proceeds getting sick. Know the signs so that you have time to take a med to help through it. It can also be as simple as not going down below, getting a good breeze flowing through the cockpit, steering the boat, and splashing water in your face, or eatin something. Keep your stomach full.

I would not give up on sailing. However, I also would not go to sea (esp as a SH) knowing I was highly susceptible to being sea sick and could not get over it. Find your way around it. I have never met anyone that could not find a way around it. What that is for you, only you can tell.

All the best on your future adventures!!!

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Re: Do you personally get seasick?

By the way, on a silly side note, the only time I get "sea Sick" is when I have been at sea a long time and step on land!!!! My brain goes into some kind of "error Mode"... like the floor is supposed to be moving but isnt!!! Me and Kris call it, "The Boat is Moving". It can last for 24 hours on land for us. Really freaky, especially sitting at a table at a restaurant and having to hold on to the chair nxt to you... ON DRY LAND!!

ANyone else have this problem??!??? You know you do, go ahead and speak up!!

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By the way, on a silly side note, the only time I get "sea Sick" is when I have been at sea a long time and step on land!!!! My brain goes into some kind of "error Mode"... like the floor is supposed to be moving but isnt!!! Me and Kris call it, "The Boat is Moving". It can last for 24 hours on land for us. Really freaky, especially sitting at a table at a restaurant and having to hold on to the chair nxt to you... ON DRY LAND!!

ANyone else have this problem??!??? You know you do, go ahead and speak up!!

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