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pros/cons of boom footed jib?

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im thinking of fitting a boom footed jib to a compac 23 to be able to tack with less sail tending, but ive never used a jib with a boom before. can anyone who has give me advise about the pros and cons?

not too easy to get a boom footed jib in a sail bag i bet. 8-)
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Re: pros/cons of boom footed jib?

Weight, cost, take up most of the foredeck, limit jib size, complexity... There are others.

But as you pointed out they make sail trim too easy for short handed sailing. If you are considering it, take a look at the system the Alerion Express uses, I can't remember the manufacturer, but they are rediculously easy, well made systems.
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Re: pros/cons of boom footed jib?

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.....but as you pointed out they make sail trim too easy for short handed sailing. If you are considering it, take a look at the system the Alerion Express uses, I can't remember the manufacturer, but they are rediculously easy, well made systems.
I believe that's called the 'hoyt boom'.. Island Packet uses them as well.
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Re: pros/cons of boom footed jib?

Sooner or later it will get your shins. But, they do make tacking up a narrow channel less work.
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Re: pros/cons of boom footed jib?

They are called "club footed" jibs for a reason. A boomed staysail on a cutter rig makes a lot of sense to me though - sure makes tacking easier.
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Re: pros/cons of boom footed jib?

It makes single handling easy and you can short tack like sports car up a narrow channel. I used to carry a genoa with a wire luff for light air and use my club foot for everything else. When I was a yall, I could sail my boat like a witch with the main down and just the mizzen and club foot up. In storms I could reef my head sail down and still keep it nice and flat. I miss that set up and i'm thinking about going back to it.
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Re: pros/cons of boom footed jib?

The Gary Hoyt invention 'Hoyt Jib Boom' can be retrofitted to existing boats.

We use the Hoyt boom on our Harbor line of Daysailers. The advantages shone self tacking are:

1) ability to trim slot and draft independently with great precision resulting in a highly efficient sailplan. I can outpoint and sail faster upwind in a Harbor 25 than most anything.

2) ability to wing on wing Downwind, not as much power as a chute, but signicantly more than gennie on a whisker pole.

Disadvantages:

1) foredeck has a boom sweeping it. This is only a problem if you store stuff there. Downwind if a leggy crew is available, send her forewarded with a tall one, she can trim the boom lounging on the fordeck with one leg proped against the boom.

2) lifelines and pulpits versus jib boom sweep geometry is silly complicated to get right. The Harbor 25 and 30 have lifeline & pulpit options, but I doubt a retrofit would be simple, unless one would abandon the forward lifelines.

3) retrofit sailplan - since the jib is a 85-90% jib, the main needs a lot of horsepower. If I'd retrofit, I check sailplan numbers carefully.
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Re: pros/cons of boom footed jib?

I've had three. In addition to tacking easier, they sheet easier too. The pull of the sail is transmitted through the boom instead of all on the sheet. In 21 years I don't think I've been hit by one. You can bag it if the clew detaches from the boom, I used to do this.
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Re: pros/cons of boom footed jib?

A big disadvantage if you are in a light wind area is you are limited to a working jib. I sail regularly on a friend's Alerion 28. The jib boom was removed long ago and replaced by a genny on a roller furler.
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