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Re: interesting rescue worth discussing

Two headsails on furlers and they need electric motors for them too? Dont get it. Thank good ness for the CG
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Re: interesting rescue worth discussing

We have furling sails, but use electric winches to manipulate the outhauls and furling lines. An electric furler for the headsail is an option, but no thanks. Yes, you can go stick a handle in it (I believe it is a special handle, not just any winch handle), but you're going to the bow to do so. If I'm right about the specialty handle, you better know where it is too. I prefer to just grind a winch in the cockpit, if the juice dies. And we've had to do it.

I've had my share of drips and leaks, but thankfully, never one that rose to the level of needing assistance. I've had a false high water bilge alarm go off too. That was a lifespan limiter.

I guess, they all get you thinking. We have a dedicated cabinet in the salon with just about every water plug thing you can think of. Dowels, that soft cone thing, stay afloat wax, etc. The bilge has a primary and backup pump. I also have a third pump, with about 20 feet of wire and ring terminals to spin on a 12 v battery terminal with enough hose to run up the companionway and over the side. This was an old jerry rig that I set up to deliver a boat across the bay with an inoperative bilge pump. We used it to pump 6 inches of rain water out of the bilge. We also have a supply of epoxy in case we need to have something a bit more permanent.
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Re: interesting rescue worth discussing

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3. Should the high water bilge alarm go off, the very first thing to do is to fire up the diesel and not go looking for the leak.
Never heard this one before. Is the reason because the starter battery will go dead? I always thought it took time for a battery to discharge, even underwater. (Maybe the concern is water in the starter motor?)

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Re: interesting rescue worth discussing

I have this to say about that : When I go out I don't feel like I'm owed a rescue at tax payer's expense , however , Of all the things our government spends money on I like this one . No one has the time to listen to all the ones I don't approve of .
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Re: interesting rescue worth discussing

That sure is an Uglicraft. +1 on manual pumps. Electric pumps are nice but have proven to me that they can stop working for any number of reasons. I installed an additional manual pump last year to be able to hand pump from below. A bilge alarm is a good idea and pretty simple to set up. Watched a guy with a new zillion dollar boat w/in-mast auto furler bob around for hours with the thing hopelessly jammed a couple of years ago. He finally had to be towed in.

CG doesn't tow anymore as a rule. They call a tow service. Maybe there was no towing service available?
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Re: interesting rescue worth discussing

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Never heard this one before. Is the reason because the starter battery will go dead? I always thought it took time for a battery to discharge, even underwater. (Maybe the concern is water in the starter motor?)

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Salt water is a conductor of electricity. When the batteries go under water, you will essentially create a path between the terminals. In a lead-acid battery the electrolyte will be compromised as well.
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Re: interesting rescue worth discussing

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The flooding "kept the engine from starting"? Hell, they had to be under power to begin with, since the sails are all furled...
That's what I was thinking, too. There has got to be a lot more to the story of what led to their "emergency" than we're seeing here.
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Who the hell stuck a mast on a SeaRay?
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Re: interesting rescue worth discussing

Maybe CG chose to tow because something smelled fishy and they wanted the vessel to be available to any possible investigation?
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Re: interesting rescue worth discussing

First, the boat looks to be quite a bit bigger than 49' - compare it to the 47' CG vessel. News articles give varying values, from 45 to 49 - but to me it looks to be at least 60' or so, especially with the bowsprit.

Secondly, note the bowsprit and check out this wonderful piece of cinematography:
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