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Re: Looks good, how well will she sail?

And remember that the cost to run a boat aside from buying it double roughly every 5 feet. At roughly the 60' mark (less for GP race boats), you're looking at typical maintenance being a full time job. Most large boats have a 'boat manager' or full time captain who's paid to do this. If one had no work responsibilities and loved to work on boats 40 hours a week, then you'd be all set.
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Re: Looks good, how well will she sail?

For the kind of money you would be spending for this boat, you could buy a new 35-40' production boat, that WOULD sail locally in light winds, have all the amenities you need, cost less to maintain etc. Along with some, might even have an RF main and jib which should be easier to operate than this boat!

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Re: Looks good, how well will she sail?

Beautiful boat!

First, for a 1976 boat that needs a bit of restoration, in this market, the price is not too low. In fact they would probably accept an even lower offer.

Second, she is clearly a motorsailer with pilothouse steering and small sail area (a Swan 60 has over 3000sq. ft.) Not to speak for Mr. Giles, but motorsailers are designed to have the engines running almost all the time.
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Re: Looks good, how well will she sail?

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What do you want to do with the boat you buy? And do you really need a 60' boat?
Nobody NEEDS a 60' yacht - it's a pure WANT!
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Nobody NEEDS a 60' yacht - it's a pure WANT!
He might have 8 children though.
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--- question: What's up with the sail plan? Is it common to have a "ketch" rigged boat without a mainsail? Does anyone have other examples of a two masted boat where the main mast serves only to support foresails?
Heard of a staysail schooner? This is a staysail ketch. There is not a traditional main sail in the rig. As noted in the ad, under full working sail she will be flying two sails between the main mast and the mizzen mast. Very flexible rig for dealing with weather changes.
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He might have 8 children though.
There's someone, somewhere, with 8 kids who can afford a boat?
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There's someone, somewhere, with 8 kids who can afford a boat?
He is wanted in 8 states for non payment of child support, and recently set a record for staying at sea the longest, then got hit with child #9 when he finally finished! or some such story like this..........

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There's someone, somewhere, with 8 kids who can afford a boat?
The reality is that Sam hasn't said how he wants to use the boat - liveaboard for a couple, round the world with the 8 kids, etc. That information would be a help to those posting I think.
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Re: Looks good, how well will she sail?

Brian,

You are correct in that the OP has not said what his need and want of a boat is. If he has the 200K for this boat, another 400k or so in the bank, he would have a VERY NICE boat for 500-700K dollars, vs paying probably over a mil if not 2 mil for a new one like this.

For cruising the salish sea........this would not be the best if one wants to sail. Motor sail......nice boat. It does have a nice pilot house to get out of the drizzle/cold etc. Could make a nice setup from that angle.......I would prefer to sail a bit more than this boat would allow around here. On the ocean for a world cruise......still would prefer some more sail HP, vs motor......I could probably handle it from that perspective, but even so, a 40ish foot sloop rigged boat with and RF main and jib would be faster and probably cheaper to maintain etc.

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