Looks good, how well will she sail? - Page 4 - SailNet Community
 8Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #31 of 53 Old 06-11-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,370
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
Re: Looks good, how well will she sail?

And remember that the cost to run a boat aside from buying it double roughly every 5 feet. At roughly the 60' mark (less for GP race boats), you're looking at typical maintenance being a full time job. Most large boats have a 'boat manager' or full time captain who's paid to do this. If one had no work responsibilities and loved to work on boats 40 hours a week, then you'd be all set.
puddinlegs is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #32 of 53 Old 06-11-2012
Senior Member
 
blt2ski's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 6,862
Thanks: 0
Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts
Rep Power: 12
   
Re: Looks good, how well will she sail?

For the kind of money you would be spending for this boat, you could buy a new 35-40' production boat, that WOULD sail locally in light winds, have all the amenities you need, cost less to maintain etc. Along with some, might even have an RF main and jib which should be easier to operate than this boat!

Marty

She drives me boat,
I drives me dinghy!
blt2ski is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #33 of 53 Old 06-11-2012
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Oriental, NC
Posts: 93
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
Re: Looks good, how well will she sail?

Beautiful boat!

First, for a 1976 boat that needs a bit of restoration, in this market, the price is not too low. In fact they would probably accept an even lower offer.

Second, she is clearly a motorsailer with pilothouse steering and small sail area (a Swan 60 has over 3000sq. ft.) Not to speak for Mr. Giles, but motorsailers are designed to have the engines running almost all the time.
kbyte is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #34 of 53 Old 06-11-2012
Senior Moment Member
 
SloopJonB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: West Vancouver B.C.
Posts: 11,443
Thanks: 59
Thanked 68 Times in 65 Posts
Rep Power: 5
 
Re: Looks good, how well will she sail?

Quote:
Originally Posted by mitiempo View Post
What do you want to do with the boat you buy? And do you really need a 60' boat?
Nobody NEEDS a 60' yacht - it's a pure WANT!

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
SloopJonB is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #35 of 53 Old 06-11-2012
Senior Member
 
mitiempo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Victoria B.C. Canada
Posts: 7,499
Thanks: 0
Thanked 96 Times in 87 Posts
Rep Power: 8
   
Re: Looks good, how well will she sail?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
Nobody NEEDS a 60' yacht - it's a pure WANT!
He might have 8 children though.

Brian
Living aboard in Victoria Harbour
mitiempo is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #36 of 53 Old 06-11-2012
Senior Member
 
FSMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Bahamas
Posts: 641
Thanks: 1
Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Re: Looks good, how well will she sail?

Quote:
Originally Posted by yossarian View Post
--- question: What's up with the sail plan? Is it common to have a "ketch" rigged boat without a mainsail? Does anyone have other examples of a two masted boat where the main mast serves only to support foresails?
Heard of a staysail schooner? This is a staysail ketch. There is not a traditional main sail in the rig. As noted in the ad, under full working sail she will be flying two sails between the main mast and the mizzen mast. Very flexible rig for dealing with weather changes.
bdr likes this.

Sail Fast Live Slow
36' Solaris Sunstar catamaran
FSMike is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #37 of 53 Old 06-11-2012
Senior Moment Member
 
SloopJonB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: West Vancouver B.C.
Posts: 11,443
Thanks: 59
Thanked 68 Times in 65 Posts
Rep Power: 5
 
Re: Looks good, how well will she sail?

Quote:
Originally Posted by mitiempo View Post
He might have 8 children though.
There's someone, somewhere, with 8 kids who can afford a boat?

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
SloopJonB is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #38 of 53 Old 06-11-2012
Senior Member
 
blt2ski's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 6,862
Thanks: 0
Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts
Rep Power: 12
   
Re: Looks good, how well will she sail?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
There's someone, somewhere, with 8 kids who can afford a boat?
He is wanted in 8 states for non payment of child support, and recently set a record for staying at sea the longest, then got hit with child #9 when he finally finished! or some such story like this..........

marty
SloopJonB likes this.

She drives me boat,
I drives me dinghy!
blt2ski is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #39 of 53 Old 06-11-2012
Senior Member
 
mitiempo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Victoria B.C. Canada
Posts: 7,499
Thanks: 0
Thanked 96 Times in 87 Posts
Rep Power: 8
   
Re: Looks good, how well will she sail?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
There's someone, somewhere, with 8 kids who can afford a boat?
The reality is that Sam hasn't said how he wants to use the boat - liveaboard for a couple, round the world with the 8 kids, etc. That information would be a help to those posting I think.

Brian
Living aboard in Victoria Harbour
mitiempo is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #40 of 53 Old 06-11-2012
Senior Member
 
blt2ski's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 6,862
Thanks: 0
Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts
Rep Power: 12
   
Re: Looks good, how well will she sail?

Brian,

You are correct in that the OP has not said what his need and want of a boat is. If he has the 200K for this boat, another 400k or so in the bank, he would have a VERY NICE boat for 500-700K dollars, vs paying probably over a mil if not 2 mil for a new one like this.

For cruising the salish sea........this would not be the best if one wants to sail. Motor sail......nice boat. It does have a nice pilot house to get out of the drizzle/cold etc. Could make a nice setup from that angle.......I would prefer to sail a bit more than this boat would allow around here. On the ocean for a world cruise......still would prefer some more sail HP, vs motor......I could probably handle it from that perspective, but even so, a 40ish foot sloop rigged boat with and RF main and jib would be faster and probably cheaper to maintain etc.

Marty

She drives me boat,
I drives me dinghy!
blt2ski is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Can someone recommend a good book/DVD on how to sail ? AquaBoi Learning to Sail 14 04-06-2010 03:19 PM
Looking for a good Sail Loft in MA/RI sailingdog Gear & Maintenance 10 07-03-2008 07:23 PM
Good Day Sail Areas kptmorgan04 Chesapeake Bay 4 05-23-2007 10:01 PM
What are good 'learn to sail' sites? mwer General Discussion (sailing related) 16 08-21-2006 08:26 AM
The Voyages of the Good Ship Jabulani: Finally under sail @ Sail Blogs NewsReader News Feeds 0 04-18-2006 03:15 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome