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Seized seacock

Hi,
On a westerly discus 33 the seacock on the toilet has seized up I have tried simple things like trying to put some Wd 40 and moving it but no sign of any movement. The boat is out of the water. I am just wondering if you have any advice on how to free it.
Iv'e inherrited the boat off my grandad who has unfortunately passed, it needs lots of work doing on it but I am very inexperienced with boats but very keen.
Any help much appreciated,
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Re: Seized seacock

A photo - or link to a photo (as you have not posted much) would help. Seacocks come in may materials, shapes and sizes!
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Re: Seized seacock

what type of seacock? If you could list the age of the boat that might help, too. Heat in the form of a heat gun or if you have good access and have good control with the flame a little butane torch (used primarily for soldering copper pipe) has worked for me in the past, sometimes heating from the outside via the thru hull has also worked. if you have limited access pull the hose and spray penetrating oil not WD 40 onto the drum of the sea ****. If it's an old wilcox crittendon or sparten seacock you should contact sparten marine for there maintenance kit and use that once the seacock if freed. Good luck
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Re: Seized seacock

Thanks for your comments When i go tomorrow i will take a picture and post one on here, ambian.... I will take a picture of the access tomorrow you say heating with a blowtorch, what part of the seacock should I heat?

Also you say pull the hose i presume just to clarify it is the hose that leads from the sea **** and then squirt penetrating oil through the pipe were the hose was attatched into the seacock?

The year of the boat is 1985... she's an old girl.

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Re: Seized seacock

Yes pull the hose off the throat of the seacock then squirt the penetrating oil into the throat onto the drum then let it sit for twnety minutes or so then squirt again. The brand I have used with success is Aero Kroil in an orange can with white and black label. If you use the torch be careful! wipe up any excess oil, get it dry. What I have done is used the heat before spraying any oil. A heat gun might be safer. After spraying and waiting i have used a metal pipe to fit over the handle to get some more leverage but be gentle! dont use a lot of force, just so you feel it in the forearm but no more than the elbow for muscle if you get my thinking. you could break the seacock if you use to much leverage! It is a slow process so take your time. I have also sprayed the drum from the outside via the thru hull. I am no expert but have wrestled with my 33 year seacoacks and had to change two this spring due to old age and leaks, etc.
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Re: Seized seacock

sgjfrods... you need to make seacock one word, or our anti-porn filters take the word out like ****..
An 85 what? Pictures will definitely help.
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Re: Seized seacock

To learn more about seacocks go to Maine Sails page via pbase. If you are not planning to replace that's fine but it gives you a lot of knowledge about the different parts not to mention some other great how to articles

Compass Marine's Photo Galleries at pbase.com
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Re: Seized seacock

If it's a tapered valve, a little heat is a good idea to expand the outer casing as mentioned already. You can also back off the tightening nuts until they get to the top of the thread (to protect the threads) and tap the valve out. Make sure you use some something SOFTER than the bronze. I use an old 5# lead solder ingot. The mass of something like this works wonders. Wood is also good but not as good as lead or a brass drift. Most of the time it does not take much tapping but if really stuck, don't pound so hard as to deform the shaft/nuts. Of course if the hull is a cored hull or just modern-thin, don't do this at all.
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Re: Seized seacock

http://motorboatsmonthly.media.ipcdi..._5Seacocks.jpg

I couldn't work out how to upload the a actual seacock but this is the same type. Is the best method still to pull the hose and get some heat in there with some penetrating oil?

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Re: Seized seacock

That has GOT to be replaced . . .and yes check out the compass marine link, great tutorial
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