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Re: Fond Fairwell

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We do seem to be illustrating Chef's point about social vs sailing. Hopefully there is room for both.
At the risk of provoking those who believe that anybody who owns a sailboat, even if she's just permanently parked in their slip or driveway, or believes that somebody who's simply vaguely aware of what a sailboat is ("That's one of those funny-looking boats with sheets hung all over it, right?") qualifies the individual as a "sailor": Yeah: Much of this thread is probably rather demonstrating his point, I imagine.

Personally: I spend time on sailing-related sites primarily to learn things about sailing and sailboats, and to share what useful things about sailing and sailboats I can. Stupidity and BS can hold my attention for only so long. The pointless blathering of dilettantes holds no interest for me whatsoever.

I cannot speak for c2s or any other the others who, if they haven't departed SN entirely, certainly spend far less time here than they used to, but I do know, from comments made to me by some of them, that, yes: Some of what's found in this thread provides an excellent example of why they've chosen to absent themselves.

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Re: Fond Fairwell

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At the risk of provoking those who believe that anybody who owns a sailboat, even if she's just permanently parked in their slip or driveway, or believes that somebody who's simply vaguely aware of what a sailboat is ("That's one of those funny-looking boats with sheets hung all over it, right?") qualifies the individual as a "sailor": Yeah: Much of this thread is probably rather demonstrating his point, I imagine.

Personally: I spend time on sailing-related sites primarily to learn things about sailing and sailboats, and to share what useful things about sailing and sailboats I can. Stupidity and BS can hold my attention for only so long. The pointless blathering of dilettantes holds no interest for me whatsoever.

I cannot speak for c2s or any other the others who, if they haven't departed SN entirely, certainly spend far less time here than they used to, but I do know, from comments made to me by some of them, that, yes: Some of what's found in this thread provides an excellent example of why they've chosen to absent themselves.

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Now, seeing as most of us here are amateur sailors thus: 'dilettantes', I don't get your point.

I would be very concerned about the qualities of a 'professional' sailor who relies on Sailnet - or other comparable site - for their sailing information.

Speaking for myself: I participate on this site, as I sail: for fun. In both activities I learn a lot, but, at the end of the day, neither of them are chores.

You must be a real joy on a romantic, starlit cruise:

Your SO: "Darling, just look at all of those stars glistening in the heavens like the tears of angels."

You: "Enough of that dilettante blather. Have you finished working out the declination and sidereal hour angle of Zubenelgenubi yet?"

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What cracks me up is that Semi seems to always read all that dilettante blather, then get grumpy that he couldn't help himself....again.....for the 1000th time.

Semi, do you realize you've been grumpy and threatening to pull a Slater for like 2 years now?
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Now, seeing as most of us here are amateur sailors thus: 'dilettantes', I don't get your point.
See the emphasized bit. That was the context in which I am using the word.

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I would be very concerned about the qualities of a 'professional' sailor who relies on Sailnet - or other comparable site - for their sailing information.
I suppose that may be a function of to whom, on SN or any other sailing-related site, you look for guidance, and your ability to separate the wheat from the chaff. Personally, I've learned a lot, both here and on (counting...) four other sailing sites and two or three powerboating or general boating sites.

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Speaking for myself: I participate on this site, as I sail: for fun.
As do I. But it's a recreational pastime I take somewhat seriously. Out boat, her crew, the other boats on the water: They are all my responsibility.

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In both activities I learn a lot, but, at the end of the day, neither of them are chores.
You never swab the decks, change her aux power's oil and stuff like that?

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You must be a real joy on a romantic, starlit cruise:

Your SO: "Darling, just look at all of those stars glistening in the heavens like the tears of angels."

You: "Enough of that dilettante blather. Have you finished working out the declination and sidereal hour angle of Zubenelgenubi yet?"


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Re: Fond Fairwell

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Ah! I'd forgotten. We do seem to be illustrating Chef's point about social vs sailing. Hopefully there is room for both.
Oh, there is absolutely room for both and I find those who can't find room for both a tad bit suspect in their so called sailing seriousness.

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You're kidding right? So much wasted time on the obvious. I'm sick of those posters with hands in pocket, spiking eachother. Period.
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One leaves another joins. Circle of life. I post at about five boards. Not good to put all your eggs in one basket, even if you own the basket. I like to post at several and let the prevailing winds decide where to post.

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