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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

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Nothing wrong with standing on a street corner and holding up your book and saying "Hey read this, you'll like it, I wrote it". The internet is just a busy street corner. Nothing wrong with some free press or a chance to plug your ideas, it's what's great about the internet I think. I didn't have to pay to join this sight, I'm not paying to voice my oppinion. And if any ones interested I have a sail boat for sale, and a 40 foot dive boat selling as a buisiness in Key West. I do deliveries for profit, send me a pm, I'm writing a book, look for it's promotioms on sailnet.com next year and if anybody wants to hire me for sailboat purchasing consultation I'm available, I have a tow endorsment on my liscence if you break down and need a tow, And my wife makes awesome cotton pant's with a tie string waist, they come in three colo(u)rs, white, blue and olive...oh ya, and she makes these toe to ankle bracelet things with bead's on 'em for the lady's........what else... I became a minister on line so I do weddings.
Normally I agree with just about everything you post but that doesn't work for me exactly.

To take that analogy a bit further The internet is a busy street, and this is a restaurant we're chatting in which we've opened the door to sit and talk in by signing up and agreeing to the dress code and other rules. If you walk into a restaurant you don't have to pay to get in the door. But if you start selling me your business, your wife's pants or trying to get me married in a restaurant you don't own, the owner is going to be mad. So am I if I don't like what you're selling. I'm likely to tell you to sell it elsewhere.


An exception is often made for the band that's playing in the corner, or the artist who's paintings are on the walls, but not all restaurants have this exception. I think Sailnet could well use having something like that, and I've heard that something to that effect may be coming in the future which makes sense. I think it's doable here because I don't imagine that every post will be answered with buy my book to see how to do what you are asking, instead the same helpful good answers are likely to be as forthcoming as always(I hope).
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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

O.K. I see that, But if this is a resturaunt we are sitting in. we will be asked to leave if we don't buy something. We can't sit here an not order, or just have water, we'll get kicked out. I liken this to more of an open forum or Bazzar where we can choose to buy something we see if we like it or not. And we can choose to promote our selves and our wares. My wife hasn't made a pair of those pants in years, I've only done one wedding and that was for free, i was obviously just making a point.
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Sorry to disagree slightly but in a bazaar the vendors typically pay to have a booth in the bazaar if you were to walk around without paying for a booth trying to hawk your wears typically a person would be escorted out. Getting off topic but just had to say. for a local example would be a flea market to which i use frequently and I'd like it pretty close to a bazaar and you don't get free reign to sell your goods.

Sailnet needs to pay the bills those being paid for with advertising.

With that said i find it odd they have zero adds on the moble version not sure why they haven't done something about that seems odd to me since the moble version is all i use since i nearly exclusively use my tablet.
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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

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With that said i find it odd they have zero adds on the moble version not sure why they haven't done something about that seems odd to me since the moble version is all i use since i nearly exclusively use my tablet.
My iPhone app has an ad for the marine LEDs that I also see on my laptop.
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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

I get an ad at the top of the page for a Bob's "Crispy chicken sandwich" and it's driving me nuts! I'm starving!

I don't recall Brent selling his books here, just mentioning he has a book available. Did I miss the post? I have a copy and it's well worth buying for all the tips and insights, even if you don't have a steel boat.
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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

A large number of people we doing links to there boat related business stuff in there signature and the rules were changed
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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

It's much easier to point to a source of the information sought, than to repeat it over and over again, especially when that source contains far more information, which would be useful to the person asking.
Complaints I get are " No, you'd best throw that Brent Furler away and give me $3K for the one I'm selling." or "You have one of those Brent boats. Get out of here. You guys build all your own gear, and dont buy nothin." or "Brent doesn't charge enough." All of which I consider compliments , reaffirming that I am doing something effective to help low income cruisers get off the treadmill and out cruising. If they considered me one of them, that I would consider an insult.I have very little need for more money, and thoughts of more money rarely cross my mind. If I put out an effort to help people get out cruising in affordable ways, and dont sweat money issues , enough will come my way to take care of my meagre needs. Any more than that is irrelevant to me. Having helped a bit is the lions share of my reward.
When my pension rolls in, the book and plans will become more of a burden to me than a benefit. I'll have to keep them going for the benefit of cruisers. I would like to give them to the womens shelter, so they could take care of distribution for a source of funding, but they only want cash.
Sites which have banned me , still use my name to promote their sites. So who is being the freeloader there? People visit sites for the information they get and those who contribute valuable info are, in effect, making the a site more attractive to viewers, which greatly enhances their value to advertisers.
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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

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I get an ad at the top of the page for a Bob's "Crispy chicken sandwich" and it's driving me nuts! I'm starving!

I don't recall Brent selling his books here, just mentioning he has a book available. Did I miss the post? I have a copy and it's well worth buying for all the tips and insights, even if you don't have a steel boat.
wanna sell it? (just kidding Brent)
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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

In response to the original question-

I see all kinds out on the water. Many of the minimalist and younger types tend to keep a low profile and I definetly see the merit in that approach. I have come full circle on telling people about the joy of living aboard. I'm tired of explaining all the newances of life on the hook. tired of defending living on the hook to the marina types.
And what's more, I kind of like the fact that the anchorages are not full everywhere. I really like solitude and often avoid interaction with others prefering my own company.
I'm thrilled to hear that key west is doable as a liveaboard on the hook and that there are ample income opportunities. I was concerned that I missed the "boat" on that, as I'm hoping to be there this winter, aboard of course.
Capt. Aaron - can you tell me anything about the bycycle cab jobs I see advertised? is it a real deal or just a scam ? I know I need a city bike cabby license, can I work independently or do I need to "rent" a bike from an existing buss. ?
I have a few sailing aquaintences that lived in KW for 2 years .THey made their way working in the square selling copper wire art and face painting while on the hook. They were budget cruisers and spoke of a decent community of people on the hook around wisteria. I'm looking forward to checking it out for myself,soon. I'm hoping for a good fit, I need to find a place to be ,I afraid I'm getting old and my time is short,just want to try to enjoy what's left.
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I see all kinds out on the water. Many of the minimalist and younger types tend to keep a low profile and I definetly see the merit in that approach. I have come full circle on telling people about the joy of living aboard. I'm tired of explaining all the newances of life on the hook. tired of defending living on the hook to the marina types.
And what's more, I kind of like the fact that the anchorages are not full everywhere. I really like solitude and often avoid interaction with others prefering my own company.
I'm thrilled to hear that key west is doable as a liveaboard on the hook and that there are ample income opportunities. I was concerned that I missed the "boat" on that, as I'm hoping to be there this winter, aboard of course.
Capt. Aaron - can you tell me anything about the bycycle cab jobs I see advertised? is it a real deal or just a scam ? I know I need a city bike cabby license, can I work independently or do I need to "rent" a bike from an existing buss. ?
I have a few sailing aquaintences that lived in KW for 2 years .THey made their way working in the square selling copper wire art and face painting while on the hook. They were budget cruisers and spoke of a decent community of people on the hook around wisteria. I'm looking forward to checking it out for myself,soon. I'm hoping for a good fit, I need to find a place to be ,I afraid I'm getting old and my time is short,just want to try to enjoy what's left.
I have some pedi-cab freinds and they do allright. You really have to rent from an existing bizz. I think it was $75.00 for the night which seemed like alot to me. But my buddy told me he was making about $800 a week. I see one older fellow doing it. I know it's mostly European kiids. My freind is from Serebia. I have some freinds that do Mallory Square. The guy twisting wire does well. He's good. He has a degree from MIT. My good friend did It for years making sand candles. The anchorage around Wisteria (christmas tree Island) is allright, I like Flemming key. Real Taxi drivers do well here. Lot's of options and opportunity's here
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