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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

haven't read this full thread, but replying to first post.

I am 25. I have devoted my life to studying, but just realising now I want my sense of adventure, and time to just do things I want to do, go where I want to go. Even though I make ok money for my age, bills (on land) are stopping majority of people my age from going anywhere. Blame it on what you like, but most of it goes to paying off tuition debts, and rent. I have a great job track lined up (provided people are still looking for quants) and will be able to retire by the time I am 40, which is probably the realistic time I will buy my dream boat. Till then, I will be stuck in sailing courses. I do want to get into racing and possibly do my own solo circumnavigation, but as I am on track to be well over 80k in student debts on my undergrad alone, not to mention the 73-80k a year my MSc will cost me, it's going to be a while.

that being said, found out a friend is doing his basic cruising right now, and also wants to get into racing. So we have started looking for something in our price range. Probably a 420 or hobie cat. although we would like a sloop or full keel like a contessa 26, its just too expensive.

Also really wanting to do my basic cruising on my spring reading week feb 2013, but the school I wish to study with is full for the week, so stuck waiting til spring. Will probably take my white I-III again as it has been a while, then my bronze to better my dinghy skills.

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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

I just want to point out that the "current" generation of young people have been unemployed, unmotivated, disrespectful slackers since the dawn if time. Yet somehow the world survives

As far as young people and sailing goes last spring a couple of local bands here on the island went on tour using three sailboats. I also see plenty of young people, between the ages of 16 and 29 working on/ using the boats around me in the harbour.

Perhapse the tropics is the wrong place to meet up with younger cruisers/sailors.
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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

Someone needs to start a mirror thread to this one called:

"The grumps of the sailing world. Why are there so many 'know-it-all' old people pontificating??"
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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

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I just want to point out that the "current" generation of young people have been unemployed, unmotivated, disrespectful slackers since the dawn if time. Yet somehow the world survives .
I disagree with part of this. Lately the trend is younger people being underemployeed and not just unemployeed. This is much worse than unemployeed.

You feel useless, it's like working at Mcdonalds when you have a phd. Your over qualified.

The unemloyed people I have the privledge of knowing, work random jobs, but they work hard. They just can't find anything consistant.

The underemployeed on the other hand, are much worse off. Psychologically they feel worthless and unmotivated. I've been here, it's very difficult to get out of this rut without having something change your life significantly. Such as going back to school, or selling everything and living off the ocean .

Think things are bad now! They are only getting worse in the economical sense. We are turning into an Atlas Shrugged style situation, where everyone wants to work, but there are no jobs. An Old man and the sea style situation where you spend days working for something then someone takes it all away from you, beating you down and making you think your stuck in this rut.

Only thing left todo is fight for what you want, in steps that are within your means.

I joined here wanting to leave everything behind, buy a boat, and sail til I can't anymore. I now realise that's far off, and trying to be a realist about it. Start small, work to bigger and better things. Sure I won't enjoy it as much as an adult (I feel that this is true), but at least ill be doing something I love, and which I worked hard for.
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Someone needs to start a mirror thread to this one called:

"The grumps of the sailing world. Why are there so many 'know-it-all' old people pontificating??"
"...and why are they pontificating here instead of out sailing?"
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Someone needs to start a mirror thread to this one called:

"The grumps of the sailing world. Why are there so many 'know-it-all' old people pontificating??"
I thought that is what "know it all" old grumpy people are supposed to do... The world would just about stop if that were to change...
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It's your helicopter parents, advertising, and that X-Station 360 that made you this way you little gimp! Get a license!
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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

Oh smacky, you hidebound contrarian, this is our job, as the Generation Who Has gone Before:
If we do not disparage, belittle and challenge the wet-behind-ears generation attempting to enter adulthood, how are we going to discover those very, very few upstarts wiling to say " hey, phuque you, oldpharte, i'm better, tougher stronger, smarter and more independent than you think,and i am going to prove it by rolling right over your obstinate slow-moving lost-in-the-past ass."

Unfortunately the vast majority fail to rise to the challenge, instead offering "yeah, but"'s, excuses designed to elicit sympathy, absolving mediocrity and excusing underachievement, as if they are the only generation to endure student loans, credit card debt, bleak job prospects, and, horrors, "underemployment"

There are still new millionaires and billionaires being created every day during a recession.
There are graduates getting great jobs,acing interviews, and moving on every semester, even during a recession.

Some do, others find excuses for not doing. Success is a choice, it ain't luck.
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Oh smacky, you hidebound contrarian, this is our job, as the Generation Who Has gone Before:
If we do not disparage, belittle and challenge the wet-behind-generation attempting to enter adulthood, how are we going to discover those very, very few upstarts wiling to say " hey, phuque you, oldpharte, i'm better, tougher stronger, smarter and more independent than you think,and i am going to prove it by rolling right over your obstinate slow-moving lost-in-the-past ass."
I can throw this part a +1. Well-put blojo.
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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

I'm 28 and just bought a 26 C&C and am in the process of outfitting it to head south from Florida. Solar, fridge, autohelm, AC inverter/charger, laptop with Nav software and charts, dinghy, sound system, LED lights.

I plan on leaving in January headed for Hemmingway Marina. After spending a month in Havana having fun I am either going to head down to the DR and put the boat on the hard there, or head out to the Bahamas and puts around there and then back to Florida.

I just started sailing last year and am hoping to have a blast. I really don't know what to expect.
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