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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

I like what you are doing with your kids bent...I just had my first newborn 3 months ago and thank God I have a boat I can call my own and its paid for etc...

it is completely true that those born into sailing will obviously become sailors in 75% (EDITED FOR LESS VOLATILTY!)of the cases...and hopefully for me at least and my new family, instead of so much tv and video games activities will be going sailing, fishing, hands on stuff at the beach, games, etc...sports!

the issue I have today and the issue I will be having soon(and pertaining to the future of sailing if you will) is that for us down here at least you really really have to go out of your way to keep kids out of sedentary activities...

for instance parks are dangerous here unless they are in exclusive neighboorhoods, and traffic is completely a mess so driving to go play ball at a park really really is a hassle

sailing will be 1 hour to 2 hours away from us for example but I find it worth it cause we will be doing a family activity and not sitting eating pizza all day in front of the tv...

I think that for us today you have to be willing to accept some sort of outcast demeanor by simply not having your kid have a blackberry in 3rd grade or a full blown laptop in 6th grade and all sorts of virtual games and such...when your kids friends ask him or her what games does he have and he says we fish, we play ball we do outdoor activities by all means he will be the wierd one(hopefully a cool weird one) versus the status quo kids(no offence)

but that is just my take on things being a new parent for the first time! jajaja

I am extremely grateful for having a boat now...there were a few years there in my life that I went without a boat and or access to sailing water...so Im happy for this

too bad its such a project boat! jajajajaja

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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

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..................... it is completely true that those born into sailing will obviously become sailors in 90% of the cases...and hopefully for me at least and my new family ..............
Maybe,- maybe not! Actually, most children do not want to follow in the steps of their parents. Our children, raised from infancy to adulthood aboard, have lives ashore in houses. Yet, they live with a simplicity and honor that reflects their childhood.
Did you choose to do what your parents did?
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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

ok 75% I didnt exactly mean they would become exact same sailors, I think what I meant to say in a better way was that they(while still being children) would sail more and sometimes against their will...

as always you cant force a lifestyle but the chances of them sailing or possibilities are greater because its a family thing...

i guess 90% was pushing it jajaja

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ps. I should also stress I was talking about sailing as a passtime...not as a profession...so I want to make that clear...

I didnt study political science at stanford like my dad, Im a cook instead...but my passion for sailing is the same, or more as I used to poke fun at him a while ago! jejeje
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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

My wife and i are 25 and we daysail and race a little in our Catalina 27.....sailing doesnt have to be expensive. After all once you have a boat its FREE! It just requires you to get off your rear and work a little!
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Maybe,- maybe not! Actually, most children do not want to follow in the steps of their parents. Our children, raised from infancy to adulthood aboard, have lives ashore in houses. Yet, they live with a simplicity and honor that reflects their childhood.
Did you choose to do what your parents did?
my father rode motorcycles and took my brother and i riding. we both ride, now that we are grown. my grandfather built and poled flat bottom carvel planked boats on the monocacy river, i grew up to be a sailor. hmmmm there might be something to what he said.
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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

When was the last time you asked some young people on the dock Help me carry these bags to the boat?? Want to come sailing?? Your concerns about potential litigation evaporates on their response of ' Duh,How much you pay?'
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When was the last time you asked some young people on the dock Help me carry these bags to the boat?? Want to come sailing?? Your concerns about potential litigation evaporates on their response of ' Duh,How much you pay?'
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and i'd pay someone to come enjoy a day of sailing, for what reason? i suppose if i had the kind of disposable wealth where i could just throw it about...

i'm not sure that hiring deck hands is a large scale solution to the issue, except for the rich.

although, perhaps, it might be a chance for the more well off in the sailing community to encourage future generations to sail. and, pehaps schools and yacht clubs could also take up that practice. while not something that all of us can do, it isn't a bad idea...for the people or organizations that possess that kind of capital.

for my part, i'd gladly offer some young person the chance to go sailing ( especially if she's cute ) but i can't, very well, afford to pay them for it!

i think, at least in the US, there would be a very real risk of litigation, from disgruntled parents, if a strange adult tried to lure their kid onto a boat. i think a private individual would have to restrict that kind of thing to 18+ type young people. everyone seems more than ready to accuse everyone and their brother of improper behavior towards minors...regardless of presense or lack of evidence.

organizations, however, could advertise ( in free media like craigslist or the local bulletin board at the grocery store ) for young people to offer them the opportunity of income and adventure during summer break. it would be a sort of reverse sailing camp. normal sailing camp being where people pay you to take their kids sailing, instead of you paying kids to come sailing.

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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

Take a chance Columbus did ! I try to help by taking some one young or old out for a sail. Hey a 76 year old just set out to go around the world Young at Heart.
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Take a chance Columbus did ! I try to help by taking some one young or old out for a sail. Hey a 76 year old just set out to go around the world Young at Heart.
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Re: The future of the sailing world. Why are there so few young people cruising??

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When was the last time you asked some young people on the dock Help me carry these bags to the boat?? Want to come sailing?? Your concerns about potential litigation evaporates on their response of ' Duh,How much you pay?'
I get what you meant. This is a matter of location than necessarily values of today's young people. I think young people far away from major metro areas are far more willing to jump in and help and would like to go for a sail. (without pay) In my marina the young people are more than willing to help. BUT, they are like family to me.

I have no loss of individuals that would like to go for a sail, old and young. In fact; i have to set aside some weekends that are for my family only as i have to many people that would like to go out. (I sail 3 days a week)

It's not that there are less people sailing today.... it's that the 60's generation has bought up all the waterfront and made it to expensive in most of the metro areas.
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