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Re: I think I may do some racing!!!

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Ok...I have a pretty old boat...but she's in great conniption and we have these in harbor races here weekly...I'm thinking of getting in on the fun...
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Re: I think I may do some racing!!!

Right there with you Newport, my second race ever is Sunday. My group is a heckuva lot smaller I am sure though, and yep, I finished 2nd to last on my first race, depending on wind conditions Sunday I'll either do slightly better (3rd to last?) or drop a place (hahahaha)... but I'm still learning. Breaking in new crew too, and learning learning learning. Personally I think there are an awful lot of people out there who are willing to help, which includes this bunch.

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Re: I think I may do some racing!!!

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Perhaps you might be willing and able to join Newport for the first few starts and get him around the course safely.
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Others have given plenty of good advice.

I echo some of the folks that say if you haven't raced before, you should really crew on another boat and get an idea of what is going to be like. If you do race on another boat, if given an assignment, ask what is expected and if you have any questions about the task ask before the race gets underway.

If you have raced and think that you want to put your boat in the mix, then you know what you are getting into. Some folks suggest getting a another helmsman and you focus on sail trim or something else. Disagree. Drive your own boat. If you're not at the helm and something goes wrong you'll be seconding guessing the helmsman decision and your decision to not helm. You should get a someone on board that is a good tactician. Listen to them about where to go and when to go.

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Ok...I have a pretty old boat...
And remember that the age of the boat doesn't have a lot to do with participation. It's all about the 'preparation', including you becoming (over time of course) a better driver/sailor.
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Re: I think I may do some racing!!!

For the first time, I would keep it simple and only concentrate on a few things. Otherwise you may feel overwhelmed.

Review the rules of the road, the main ones being that a boat on a starboard tack has right of way over port, leeward has right of way over windward. If in doubt, give room, especially at the marks. It's all about fun, remember.

The start can be stressful the first time out. Rather than trying to hit the favored end of the line just as the horn goes off (where it is inevitably crowded), I would start by trying to find a less crowded part of the line and try to hit it with some decent boat speed. It's okay to be a little late the first time out. And you will definitely want to start on a starboard tack.

As you approach the marks, discuss in advance with your crew what you are going to do at the roundings, who is going to do what, whether you are tacking, jibing, hardening up, etc...

Sorry if this is too basic. Good luck!

Oh, and I wouldn't worry about lightening the load or getting better sails until you have been out at least a few times. I raced a couple of seasons before I replaced my old rags. It's all about learning the ropes and getting comfortable out there. And by all means, if you can get an experienced racer on the boat with you, you should, but you should drive.
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Re: I think I may do some racing!!!

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Perhaps you might be willing and able to join Newport for the first few starts and get him around the course safely.
He's not racing Grand Prix! Other than the start, be will be at the very most, trading tacks with other NFS boats. The most likely scenario is that he will be following the fleet around the course. It is no different than what he already does with his boat except that he is sailing in a specific course. As long as he obeys the rules of the road he will be fine! I don't know anyone who started out racing with someone else driving their boat!

I suppose if the start was a really busy one he could have someone else helm for the start...

If I was in the area I would be happy to go racing with him, but I would help him learn to drive his own boat, not drive it myself!

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Um. You ain't racing to win at this stage, as most golfers are trying to break 100 not par.
I suggest based on my experience. Read some stuff and try it out. When you get whipped you are more ready to learn.
I had the good fortune to race in a class that built to 50-60 in a race. There is a great deal of pleasure in beating your mate (or soon to become one) in the second to last boat. Even if that means that you inch past him on the last leg.
In time and with some work on the boat and sails you will move higher in the fleet. Later comes a stage when you realise sailing is also an intellectual sport and you can be part of the top few but someone outsmarts you.
If you enjoy competition (somewhat with yourself admittedly) go for it. Don't worry about the go fast tips at the moment. Do the race within a race ie you against the tail enders. 6 " can be decisive.
About my second ever sail was a race against a fleet with the previous owner of my then boat who had swapped for a faster boat. We beat him probably for second last but resulting in some quietly expressed pleasure from other members in the clubhouse afterwards.
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Re: I think I may do some racing!!!

SchockT ( and Newport ),

The turning basin for Thursday night beercans tends to be very crowded. 30 Harbor 20s, Electric Duffys, power boats, lido 14s, sabots, the dinner cruise boats, not to mention 6 PHRF divisions doing pre-start maneuvers.

Any newbie coming into that landscape will have a lot to assimilate.

If it was the beercans in San Diego or Marina Del Rey or Long Beach, with simple W-L courses and miles of open water: I would definately agree with you, that all a new driver needs is a calm navigator to guide him/her through the start and roundings. I encourage newbie sailors drive my boats in those type of races ( they usually have loads of fun and are eager to return )

However, the turning basin isn't big open water. I am afraid Newport will invariably get yelled at by some over aggressive PHRF 1 clown for a Percieved rule violation and not realize the clown is just being a clown.

SchockT does the American Legion or other YC host a cruising class series outside ?
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Isn't ShockT in N.Van, BC?
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