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Re: What is this??

Great points all. Yep, I understand the ridiculousness of even considering this. Fact is that for the money that I would just have to put in for rigging and sails I could buy a J 41, ready to sail in this economy. Though not have the semi-cruising interior I would like.

There would be two initial cost that I would be committed to if I took it, and that would be the cost to have it hauled here, and the cost of disposing of it if I bagged the whole idea.

Anyway, I will go back in the next day or two with some more wasp spray, and not in the rain this time. (haa) My adrenaline went up just realizing that when I climbed up the ladder that the largest nest was under that secondary winch, just by my hand.
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Its merely a scratch, just cosmetic.
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Re: What is this??

Worth looking at this CLICKY

If the deck which is likely to be cored is not soft because the core has rotted out AND the engine runs I would say it can be put back in the water with some sweat equity and not to much money.
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Re: What is this??

Someone will recognize the distinctive cove stripe. The "arrow fletching" on the aft end of it probably is unique to that maker and looks familiar but I'm drawing a blank.

Dare I ask if you've looked on the transom for a HIN? That would make it easy. Or the remnants of an electrical/engine panel, there's often a name on those.

I love the AC power strip taped to the grab bar below. :-)

What can make that rot fatal is if there is structural wood (bulkheads) that has rotted out below. Stringers rotted out. Keel bolts damaged by years of sitting with water over them. Water in the rudder, rotting out the armature after years. And there's GOT to be delamination in the deck after that much neglect.

Add a total rewire, even a simple one. An engine, unless you're purist. New rigging and all the rotted wood to be replaced...It hurts, but sometimes a mercy killing is indeed a mercy.
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Someone will recognize the distinctive cove stripe. The "arrow fletching" on the aft end of it probably is unique to that maker and looks familiar but I'm drawing a blank........
That is what I was hoping. Why I posted close ups. I've been searching the net, but no luck. As soon as the yellow jackets vacate then I will surely search it out. As of now I am not even sure how long this boat is. ???
I saw there was a wood documentation placard under that collapsed lazarette hatch.

Deck felt stiff. Hull and deck seem structurally sound so far. I'm getting ahead of myself though as I just need to spend a couple hours getting through this thing. Dam yellow jackets!!
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I suggest that before you even consider restoring ("ressurecting", more like it) this boat, see what big-ticket items have to be replaced: engine, sails, standing and running rigging, deck core, rudder, mast, electrical system and instruments, head, holding tank and plumbing, to name a few. If you have to replace 2 or more from the list, I'd say it's not worth even starting the project as you are certain to be into this boat for more than it's worth. People are telling you that it's just labour, but it's not. You'd be surprised at how the small stuff adds up. How many sheets or plywood are you going to use? Have you ever priced SS screws, hinges, fasteners, etc. etc.? Every seemingly small job is going to cost time and money. It doesn't seem like much now, but it just keeps adding up (and up and up....). Again, unless it's a very special boat like a Hinckley or something, it's just not worth it, unless you just LOVE to fix boats! (and if that's the case, come and visit me in Brazil and I'll put you to work!!)
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Re: What is this??

Poison is good, freeze spray is good (if you're brave), shell "no pest" strips are basically nerve gas and good (ahem) in confined spaces. But mothballs, napthalene or camphor, in good doses will also kill bugs or drive them away. Of course thy're not so good for people either, clean 'em out when you're done.
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....I'm 'thinking' I'm guna bag this idea. I forget that I am older and would rather play a bit more then have this hanging over my head.
I have a passion for full out race boats and can easily just by a nice used one with a good inventory for considerably less then this would take to make seaworthy.

By the way, just cause. Here is one of my last RC sailboats I built. West systems over pine planked hull and balsa deck.

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....I'm 'thinking' I'm guna bag this idea. I forget that I am older and would rather play a bit more then have this hanging over my head.
I have a passion for full out race boats and can easily just by a nice used one with a good inventory for considerably less then this would take to make seaworthy.

By the way, just cause. Here is one of my last RC sailboats I built. West systems over pine planked hull and balsa deck.

If you can build something that nice you'd have that old one tonner in better than new shape in no time.
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Worth looking at this CLICKY

If the deck which is likely to be cored is not soft because the core has rotted out AND the engine runs I would say it can be put back in the water with some sweat equity and not to much money.
Those are the two major questions/expenses to consider. Looks like she may have gone down which would probably have ruined the engine and soaked the wiring, core, and everything else. You could easily spend 30K bringing this one back, even doing the work yourself. Not worth it IMO, especially because it is an unknown design. If it turned out to be an old S&S or other well known design, it might be worth considering. There are too many other choices to get a sailboat in this economy.

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