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I like older boats,they often have heavier hulls and more woodwork than the newer boats,I would never trust a older halyard,and although i also like wooden boats,today there're just not practical
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I love talking ;Sailboat! So ask away!...Much better than politics!..Dale

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Ok, one more dumb question. Maybe this one isn't as dumb, but I already had the thread going so whatever.

Trying to figure up yearly costs for a leave in. All my other boats have lived on trailers, so this is another new one to me.

Boat would be 27-30', I'd keep it at Deltaville, VA.

Slip rental - Lowest I've found online is about $160/month and I know there's cheaper. $2K/year
Haul for a week: $300
DIY bottom painting: $300
Misc yearly maint: $1500'

This comes to $4100 a year, or 3401/ month less than a lot of people's car payments!! This is not my top dollar, and does not include things like buying gadgets, misc upgrades, etc. I've never paid anyone to work on any of my boats before, ever, and I don't plan to change that, so that will save me a great deal of money. This just seems a bit lower than I was expecting, any input?
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If it was lower than you were expecting, GREAT! Your boat will find a way to eat up the difference. If you can enjoy a 27-30' sailboat year-round for less than $5K a year, including fuel and maintenance but excluding rum and beer, you're doing it right.

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If it was lower than you were expecting, GREAT! Your boat will find a way to eat up the difference. If you can enjoy a 27-30' sailboat year-round for less than $5K a year, including fuel and maintenance but excluding rum and beer, you're doing it right.
Ok, so what did I add up wrong?
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Insurance, fuel, dockside incidentals, sail repair/replacement.

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Insurance, fuel, dockside incidentals, sail repair/replacement.
Liability only should be $150/year or less, nothing if covered by homeowners policy (have to check into that.) I don't finance toys.

I don't plan on using much fuel, the whole reason why I'm going into this hobby.

Dockside incidentals - ?

Would like some insight in to "sail repair/replacement" costs. Something I've not had to deal with.
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Re: New guy with dumb questions.

Great used sails out there. Never had new sails myself. That little pully thing isn't holding you. You want to go up on the hallyard that is running though the sheaves. I basically drapes over the top of the mast. I"ve rerigged a lot of catalinas that size in Miami while keeping the mast up and changing one wire at a time. My boat was built in 1965 and I bet if I T-bone a new Catalina or Hunter I would go through it. Maybe I'll try it. ( Kind of kidding) Those smaller masts, I just hoist up my chair and climb up into it. 1,2,3 shimmy's I'm standing on th spreader base's, 4,5,6 and 1/2, I'm in the chair.

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Actually, I don't think your numbers are that far off. That is assuming the boat you buy has a decent engine, decent sails, and no significant structural issues. Just plan on every so often needing to spring for a major item like a new sail, replacing all the running or standing rigging, etc.
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If you want to easily climb your mast there is an safer easier alternative to having someone winch you up.
Go to a rock climbing store and have them set you up with a static line, some assenders and a comfortable harness.
That way you have complete control. Use the halyard to hoist up the static line then tie the halyard off. Now use the assenders and harness to climb the static line.
You are in complete control and the shive (pulley) at the top of the mast is being used for support only not actually rolling.
It is a good idea to have a helper down below.
As you go up trail a light line below to the deck. That way your helper can tie on any tools or parts you forget.
I used a winch to hoist up a 200lb guy to the top of a 70' mast I thought I was going to die and he was helping as much as he could.
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