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Re: A Middle of the Road Cruiser.

Hey there. I can spend in the neighborhood of 100k, including upgrades. Although I wouldn't want to go for more than 12-15 years old.

I really would not have any intention of selling it a few years later.
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What I read from the OP's question, and what would interest me is, what are the boats in the price range just above the BeneHuntalina strata that are 'safer'. In my mind that would include ultimate stability, motion in a seaway, etc.
Define "just above".

If you are talking about new boats, (and I don't think we are) there really isn't a "just above" the big 3. The next step up in quality is a big one at least in terms of price, and the boats may not be any better suited to the task when the weather turns nasty.

If we postulate that Tartan, Sabre, IP, Passport, Caliber, etc are the middle of the pack that's a big step from a production builder.

Other boats with high build quality you might consider are Valiant and Tayana, but you'll be talking much older boats comparing with what the same money will buy from a production builder.
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Re: A Middle of the Road Cruiser.

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Hey there. I can spend in the neighborhood of 100k, including upgrades. Although I wouldn't want to go for more than 12-15 years old.

I really would not have any intention of selling it a few years later.
12ish years old, 100k, carribean, 35ish feet... sounds like a production boat to me.

I am not sure why you do not think a production boat (Catalina/Bene/Jeaunneau) would not be the ideal boat for this use?

The larger production boats are perfectly capable of offshore work. I've done it - many times and with kids. THey are not my first choice for crossing the Atlantic, but for your intersest should be perfect. We have a Catalina 400 and we have cruised on with kids. We are literally selling it all off to go out there F/T again for those very cruising grounds. I am even doing it with kids. THe C400 is out of your budget, but an older 38/380 may not be. I have owned one of those too. A C36 might do the trick. The C36 has some issues, but have also circumnavigated, so there are work arounds.

Just a thought.

If not, maybe an old Tayana 37? You can get some good feelers out in TOG (Tayana Owners Group). ALso outside of your year range.

ALbin Vega 27 to save a bunch of money but not real luxurious. Outside of your year range too.

THe Catalina 38 is actually the old Yankee 38 which is a SParkman Stephens design. Frank bought the mold from them and made some alterations to it, but I think basically the same boat. THink they quit production circa 1990 so this too is older than your preference.

I was going to say C&C but that also will be over your year range.

ANyone have other thoughts that can avoid production boats?

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Re: A Middle of the Road Cruiser.

People circumnavigate on Catalinas. I have sailed from Newfoundland to Guatemala, up and down the East Coast of the US, and from Key West to Cascais Portugal in my Catalina 42. They are ABYC ocean rated - which is the highest rating your can get. I would not be too quick to write them off. They are very comfortable coastal cruising boats.
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Re: A Middle of the Road Cruiser.

Certainly some Beneteau models are fine blue water cruisers. Check out the travels of this Beneteau Idylle:

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Yes, and way cheaper than you think.

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Re: A Middle of the Road Cruiser.

I would go for a 10 or 15 year old Sabre or Tartan.
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Re: A Middle of the Road Cruiser.

Me, I like Hylas, any size, if you can swing it.

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Re: A Middle of the Road Cruiser.

15 year old or newer Sabre, Tartan or Hylas for $100K? I doubt it.
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Re: A Middle of the Road Cruiser.

Always thought the Compac 35 was an interesting boat that seemed maybe a little better fitted out than many new boats at an interesting price. Don't have enough experience with a Scheel keel to comment on their effectiveness.
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