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I see a lot of this outside Marina Del Rey. I never thought much about it- I just assumed they were headed to catalina and motoring to waypoints is easier than tacking for 32 miles (wind is often Southerly). The only reason i'll even pay attention to other sail boats is to compare sail trim, heel, etc. No sails? Meh.

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Re: sailboats that don't sail

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I know you stated you don't care what people do with their boats.....

BUT...

You must care...it bothered you enough to make a post about it......and that's what I don't get...what business is it of yours?

Don't take that the wrong way...I don't mean it in an aggressive way or calling you out...nothing like that....just a point....

In any case, you will not get the answer here. How could anyone here know why those boats weren't under sail. Next time, if it really matters, sail on over and ask. They'll either tell you why....or tell you to piss off....or maybe they'll invite you aboard for a cold one....or maybe ask for help.....who knows?
Hi Joe,

It certainly isn't my business, and I'm not bothered it. I don't know everything and maybe there are some good reasons to be on a sailboat, at sea, with the sails down and covered. JonEisberg (And others) gave some reasons that I had not thought of, so I have learned something.

Fair winds to you all,
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I also noticed 2 sailboats on moorings in a local Yacht Club that dont even have masts.. And it doesnt look like it is a temporary situation..
Those are not sailboats they are floating beer drinking platforms.
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Re: sailboats that don't sail

i always put up just enough sail to give me the right away when i need to motor around.just because i can.

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Re: sailboats that don't sail

I think you should feel superior but keep it to yourself.
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Re: sailboats that don't sail

Another perspective.

Maybe they just felt like motoring? I come from a long line of powerboaters. At times I don't mind motoring.

A 30 - 34 ft trawler probably burns at least two gallons/hour at 7-8 knots.

A 30 - 34 ft sailboat probably burns less than a gallon/hour at 6-7 knots.
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Re: sailboats that don't sail

In calm conditions, I burn about 1/3 gallon per hour at 5 knots.

Here is why I would motor:
  • Too little wind
  • Wind on the nose, and I didn't want to tack. (too tired, too much of a hurry to get to point B)
  • Short handed, and crew was not helping me sail.
  • Before I had lazy-jacks, I confess that "the main was a pain," and I would frequently roll out the jib only. Flaking my main after lowering it was a PITA. Now, it's EASY.
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i always put up just enough sail to give me the right away when i need to motor around.just because i can.
You do understand that according to the COLREGS, if your engine is running with the transmission engaged that you do not have rights as a sailing vessel, right? And that you should be burning your steaming light, or displaying the appropriate day shape?

If you are involved in an altercation with another boat where you claim privileged status, and it comes to light that your engine was applying power to the boat, you will be held accountable.
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Re: sailboats that don't sail

The issue of sailors not sailing wasn't a concern yesterday on Herring Bay. I was surprised to see dozens of sailboats out, all flying their sails - none moving.

I imagine the fact this was the first weekend in some time that didn't have 100+ degree temperatures had a lot to do with it.
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