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Re: Couldn't do it

Airconeffingditioning ?

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We're just gonna keep the thing, sell a few things off her we don't need and deal with it later. No live aboard , no cruising - just some bay sailing if we can motivate to go out. I'll probably put her back on the hard and repower her with a used inboard over the course of the next year. No drama, just giving in to the inevitable I believe.

15k is in reality too low for what I have into her, and without an inboard she won't fetch top of the market like she should. If I'm wrong, tell me. Also, I'm not willing to go through haul outs, surveys and all that when I feel like I'm selling her low priced (which is what the potential sale I let go would have entailed). I'll probably wind up making her what most people would want, and selling her then but as of now I make no proclamations.
In purely economic terms, you would probably be better off cutting your losses, and selling her as is... In trying to turn her into something "most people would want" (inboard diesel, refrig, etc), I think it is HIGHLY unlikely you would recoup such expenditures/effort in the eventual selling price... Unless you happened to score an absolute killer deal on a used diesel, perhaps...

One thing I'm missing, have you actually ever gone anywhere with the boat? After all the work you've put into her, I think you really owe it to yourselves to take off for awhile, on a cruise down to Tangier I, Onancock, wherever... Even if you have to FORCE yourselves to do this, Just Do It, as Tempest suggests... It might change your perspective, completely...

Or, better yet, put a proper inboard in her, and THEN take off on a proper little cruise... Head down to Norfolk, the ICW to Pamlico Sound, Ocracoke, Beaufort, Cape Lookout, back up the ICW and Dismal Swamp Canal, for instance...

Hopefully, you'll see the light, and come to the realization that many of us have, that a small cruising sailboat with reliable auxiliary power is one of the most remarkable means of conveyance and exploration ever devised by man... (grin)


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Hey, you just had a change in direction....no shame or dishonor in that. Many things which seem attractive at the beginning over time turn out to be something else. And when you discover that, it's time for a course correction. You owe no explanations to anyone. Live aboard cruising is just one facet of sailing. It is no more valid or better than just simply day sailing. It's just different. And your day sailor boat can be a dinghy or large cruising boat. It's your boat, use it as you want. Keep the boat, go for short sails or cruises as you like. Since you are not spending all your time cruising, you will have time for other activites that cruisers can't do because they are spending time cruising. I.e., do what you want and let others do what they want to do. It works for both.
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Re: Couldn't do it

Having sold my boat and bought it back, I bet ya if you sold it, You would instantly miss it. I've sold my boat once and sunk it twice. At least I knew when I sunk it I still had it. When I've lost interest in it, I would put it out to pasture untill I got the bug again. All though mine I've been sailing on since I was 8 years old, so it really is a part of the family.
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Having sold my boat and bought it back, I bet ya if you sold it, You would instantly miss it. I've sold my boat once and sunk it twice. At least I new when I sunk it I still had it. When I've lost interest in it, I would put it out to pasture untill I got the bug again. All though mine I've been sailing on since I was 8 years old, so it really is a part of the family.
Agreed, as much time and love as you and the family have put into it you would end up regretting the sale. Anything you think about that much has to be part of your life. Besides with the boat market getting softer and softer now is not the time to sell, boats are literally falling out of the sky. Speaking of which Cap.aaron, check your mail!

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Sounds like you want to keep her and are going out of your way to make a sale difficult. Nobody is going to buy at a fair price without a survey. You already know that though.
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Re: Couldn't do it

C&C,

I'll offer some advice since you guys seem receptive to input.

Don't sell the boat just yet. If I recall you only "finished" the epic refit this spring right? Before making a major decision, I would wait at least a year. What you're feeling now might change, might pass, might intensify.

I once asked a wise doctor what to do about a condition that I couldn't figure out and fix that day. He said, "Give it a little time. The condition will do one of three things: it will either get worse, get better, or stay the same. Usually we learn something from this."

Also, I'm with John Eisberg, don't add an inboard just to add $$ to the sale price! That's a lot of work. On the other hand, since you guys seem to enjoy boat work, it might actually be cathartic and be a good idea to get all greasy. If, indeed you think you'll LIKE adding the engine (and not just resent the process the whole time) then I think it's a great idea. It would allow you some hard-core boat work time, and then when you're done you can try sailing with an auxiliary next summer and maybe you'll be converted. If you're not converted, it'll sell for more.

Lastly, if after time to think about it, and hopefully some time cruising outside of your comfort zone and with the luxury of a reliable auxiliary you decide that sailing isn't for you, then that is okay. It's not for everybody. What you won't get here though, is a lot of people echoing this sentiment. We're ALL sailors here so we think everyone else must like it and if the don't then something is wrong! It's kind of like going to an AA meeting and asking what the folks think about your going out and getting hammered. It's the wrong group to seek support from for that particular move.....

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Re: Couldn't do it

Glad to hear you're not completely throwing in the towel just yet. +1 on Jon's suggestion to put in an inboard motor. It will open up a lot of choices as where and when you can go. I agree that hiring a "surveyor" who knows considerably less about your boat than you is nonsense. The price these guys charge is way out of whack for what they actually do. As most other posters are suggesting--action is required. Go out sailing. I know that often I just have to force myself to get out there instead of doing things like sitting on my duff in front of this infernal machine. Once out on the hiking trail above the tree line or off on the boat I always wonder why I don't do it more often.

Look for a little used Yanmar diesel or find a basket case and rebuild it.
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Re: Couldn't do it

The people who bocked at buying obviously did'nt have a clue what they were looking at and therefore were not worthy. As nice as they may have been, sounds like they should buy a Catalina or Hunter. Those boats were made for land lubbers who want to poke there nose out into the bay. A surveyor worth his salt could look at that boat and in less than a half hour and advise the people to buy now while it's still available. It was written in the stars for you to keep her.
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