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Old 07-22-2012
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Re: I've taken your advice...and found a better boat

If you are not going to get the boat surveyed what is the harm in asking for a quick sea trial? If the seller balks at this idea then I wouldn't push it. You will get a H 30' in sail away condition for $4K - which is what I paid for my Tartan 27' over ten years ago in similar condition. We did a survey but no sea trial.

OTOH, it is a sailboat, one designed by Cherubini who seems to have a fairly loyal following if you believe other poster's who extol the virtues of his designs (and I have no reason not to believe them). If the sails are even in fair condition they will make the boat move. You will find out soon enough how it sails. It is probably best not to push the seller too hard such that he reconsiders as does seem to happen (see ChrisNCate's recent thread).
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Re: I've taken your advice...and found a better boat

I would second the comment about taking all the time you need. It doesn't matter what the purchase price is. You are buying a boat and all that entails. If you put this boat in the water and move it. Then you will need to trust that it will do what you want. Take your time and satisfy yourself that this particular boat will work for you.
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Re: I've taken your advice...and found a better boat

I was happy to give the potential buyers as much face time as they wanted, we all spent a few hours on two different occasions together, and for a long time on both days I left them alone to check the boat over without me present.

Also, we had a planned test sail set for this last Friday, but the weather was bad and by the time they finally made it (bad bridge traffic, they were an hour late from our latest time, we were all going to shoot for earlier - we made it there three hours before they did) it was late in the day with bad weather coming and going.

For us, unlimited looky loo time as well as a test sail (where I take them sailing) and an hour in a sling were what we considered reasonable. The sling time being on their dime.
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Re: I've taken your advice...and found a better boat

Wow, that's a lot better.

I know what you mean about not wanting to come across as a tire-kicker, but don't let yourself get pushed around. Check the boat out thoroughly.
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Re: I've taken your advice...and found a better boat

If the guy won't let you take it out and drive it around then how will you know how well that engine is running. Sitting in nuetral it might pur like a kitten, put it in gear and it might jump all over the place. Read up on what standing rigging should and shouldn't look like, if the wire is all rusty, well... Walk heavy footed on the deck, ...Oh, there is so much to look for, but most of it can be seen at a glance if you know what you are looking at. Good luck, it looks like a good deal to me.
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Re: I've taken your advice...and found a better boat

Like bljones said. Take your time. If you feel the owner is pushing things along than run.
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Re: I've taken your advice...and found a better boat

Maybe I'll go offer him $4001... Lucky for you, I'm flying to Maryland tomorrow! Good luck with purchase. I hope to be in your position (looking for boats) in a year or two.
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Re: I've taken your advice...and found a better boat

Good luck! Certainly looks to be a much better deal than the C27......
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Re: I've taken your advice...and found a better boat

We had the 25 foot version of the boat you are looking at. If you do end up buying her, may I suggest you drop the rudder and inspect the rudder post where it enters the rudder? Ours' broke off right at the entry point. The post was/is a hallow stainless steel tube.

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I think you will know 90% of what you need to know about the engine if it starts. Would be nice to see if there are any problems under power, or when running for a while, but, maybe not worth paying for a launch and recovery. At least you don't have to pay to look at the bottom. Focus on things that would keep you from sailing it tomorrow.
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