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I suppose it's obvious that MarkofSeaLife meant that there were no recorded deaths due to a sailboat hitting a floating shipping container.
I don't suspect there would be many recorded.

If you hit a shipping container at speed and sink in a couple minutes their will not be much to record.

Now that tacking systems are getting more common you could looks for boats that decelerate from 10+ knots to 0 knots then stop transmitting minutes later. Not proof of a container hit but certainly a possibility if the track is clear of land.
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"May be the real cure is to just stop buying stuff made in China? And save some American jobs? "
Right, isolationism, that's been proven to work. (Not.)

The US forcibly opened trade iwth Japan, a closed kingdom. The Chinese actually BURNED all their fleets, which we are now suspecting ranged halfway around the world and included vessels of incredible unprecedented size. That didn't work any better than their Great Wall.

Or Hadrian's Wall in England. Damned barbarians keep slipping by...

Save American jobs? OK, but a chinaman's gotta eat, too. You'd save more Ameican jobs by opening gen-you-whine American franchises to serve those billion hungry chinamen lunch. In China.
Sell'em Hostess - they can use one of their shuttered melamine factories to produce the "cream" filling.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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I suppose it's obvious that MarkofSeaLife meant that there were no recorded deaths due to a sailboat hitting a floating shipping container.
Thank you. Yes that's what I meant.

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I've always suspected that the thought of hitting a shipping container is one of those things you hear talked about disproportionately to the amount of times it actually happens.
... I would venture to guess that your chances of hitting a whale woud be far greater than hitting a storage container.
Yes, you are absolutely right.

The thing I hate about these threads is they are just so wrong. But they instill fear into people, especially the womenfolk. And then you get the threads where guys say their wives won't go sailing. It's because morons who know nothing promote this sort of drivel.

Whales are a much more likely thing to hit. Surprisingly because of the greenies movement keeps telling me they virtually don't exist.

I have never got close to one in the last 35,000 nms, but doing a trans atlantic in 1999 about half way over I came on deck in the morning and the watch was watching these three quite LARGE whales asleep dead ahead. As it wasnt my watch, but I was Mate, so I said, "bring it up a bit" to miss their tails, and the dope on the helm held course. I said it again and he did nothing so I had to run to the crew cockpit and grab the wheel and spin it. I'm sure the keel brushed the tail of the biggest one. He didnt do anything, but we would have hit him in the gizzards. I don't think it would have hurt the boat but an angry tail smack would have!

So anyone that doesn't want to go cruising because of containers floating is a fool. If they are out there you won't hit one. I guarantee it!



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Thank you. Yes that's what I meant.



Yes, you are absolutely right.

The thing I hate about these threads is they are just so wrong. But they instill fear into people, especially the womenfolk. And then you get the threads where guys say their wives won't go sailing. It's because morons who know nothing promote this sort of drivel.

Whales are a much more likely thing to hit. Surprisingly because of the greenies movement keeps telling me they virtually don't exist.

I have never got close to one in the last 35,000 nms, but doing a trans atlantic in 1999 about half way over I came on deck in the morning and the watch was watching these three quite LARGE whales asleep dead ahead. As it wasnt my watch, but I was Mate, so I said, "bring it up a bit" to miss their tails, and the dope on the helm held course. I said it again and he did nothing so I had to run to the crew cockpit and grab the wheel and spin it. I'm sure the keel brushed the tail of the biggest one. He didnt do anything, but we would have hit him in the gizzards. I don't think it would have hurt the boat but an angry tail smack would have!

So anyone that doesn't want to go cruising because of containers floating is a fool. If they are out there you won't hit one. I guarantee it!



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..just wish the OP of this thread would publish his promised article that I had submitted these pixs too..

Oh..by-the-way..my wife was aboard when these pixs where tak'n..
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Thats the same pic.

no one was killed.

It was 16 years ago.

I am not saying they are not there. there was one picked up iin the PNW a few weeks ago. it came from Japans tsunami.
so yes they are there. but not enough to kill. or none have....

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" they probably don't float all that long "
You'd be surprised at what floats and how long it floats. Anything boxed with foam styrene inserts, like all electronics and appliances, has that buoyancy forever. Big old heavy TV sets with leaded glass picture tubes? Yeah, they had positive buoyancy forever because of the volume in the picture tube. I guess sailors should be thankful for flat screens, but thosde are usually wrapped in plastic bags, guess what will trap air and keep them floating too? Cargo cube full of snack foods in poly or foil bags? Float forever, those bags won't pop or soak.
I plopped my first pair of "guaranteed waterproof" binoculars in a sink to make sure they really were, while they were still new & easily returned. Guess what? THEY FLOAT. Because of all the air inside the heavy metal and glass tubes.
Got a box full of sockets and wrenches? Heavy steel? Sure, now check out the blow-molded platic case they are in. Floatation again!
For a couple of seasons Dave Letterman had a "Will it float?" segment on. You'd be surprised at what floats, and how long it keeps floating.

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Tracking systems? "Hello, this is OnStar, we've been notified of a sudden airbag deployment on your yacht. Have you hit a shipping container?"
See now, the only reason that can't happen is because your yacht doesn't have a rearview mirror installed yet, does it? (VBG)
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If they keep losing containers in the ocean, then the ocean sea level will rise. It is like putting too much sand in a bowl of water, the water will rise. Someone should be responsible to go retrieve them.
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did someone watch that movie ( all is lost) and get the idea that ur just gonna happen to hit a big crate full of shoes?
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Re: Have you ever hit a shipping container?

A Fukushima container with a Harley in it made it to a beach in B.C.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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A Fukushima container with a Harley in it made it to a beach in B.C.

Another lose for the Pacific Gyre.

Theres been a steady stream of junk from F to BC, hasnt there? Surprised its still happening.

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