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The boat looks really nice I agree with the price, 4000 to 5000 dollar range seams about right. I would get her hauled and take a good look at the bottom, keel and rudder. If it looks good jump she might be the boat you have been waiting for.
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If you do get her hauled and surveyed, just have a word with the surveyor at the end, tell him/her what you're paying, and he/she will probably tell you there and then if it's a good price, plus a quick summary of any big stuff they find. The paper survey a week or so later will usually read like a horror story as they pretty much give you everything that would need doing to get it to an "as-new" condition, which on a 30 year old boat is likely to be a long list regardless of how well the boat has been looked after.

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Oh, and another thing. My insurance company required me to submit a plan to fix the things noted in the survey as "Essential Repairs." They insured it right away, but I had to give them a plan. Keep this in mind as it may affect your budget in the short term.
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I just bought an 82 C25 fixed keel with the original OB (so essentially, no OB) for about the same price. It's a good deal, but not so great that you need to worry that it is stolen or rotten.

Boats sit on the market for months/years now. If the owner is looking at $800-1,000 to haul and store a boat worth maybe $6-8k they might be very willing to let it go for cheap.

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4k is a lot to pay for that boat with no engine. It looks in good shape and has a lot of features/updates for that model, but I would expect to get an engine for that price.

Remember that most boats in good condition will survey OVER the agreed purchase price in the current market.

I don't mean to be negative, the C-25 is a fantastic boat and the fin keel sails the best!


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OK GUYS THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!! NOW I HAVE ONE LAST PROBLEM.....

I just got word that I am hired at my new job which works me from 7 to 530 mon thru friday and every other saturday. I start monday NEXT WEEK and it is tuesday here. The service dock here doesnt have availability to outhaul until next week on wednesday. NO TIME AT ALL to have her outhaled and surveyed during the day. However I'M free daily all this week...

Hes willing to let me make a down payment and sign her over, following monthly payments.

Should I do a fine tuning self survey one last time, and take her out on a test myself within this week? (Minnewaska I know where your coming from. Theres LOTS more about surveying than quick glances at things. Ive been reading Don Caseys Sailboat Maintanence manual religiously and all these forums to help me. )

Im thinking the head just needs a rebuild kit, and the owner said vhf radios dont pick up signal if the batts arent fully charged.

I want to make a list of things that I seem unfit to respectfully/hopefully barter with the guy on price. Plus i just calculated docking/slip fees and insurance fees and realized Id end up broke til payday.

This is a devirginizing experience and Im not rich, but this is also the biggest thing Ive wanted to do with my life.

Ive turned to the wonderful, experienced folks here on sailnet for advice. I need to make a decision soon and not having any sailing buddies to turn to, you guys and gals are all I got!
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OK GUYS THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!! NOW I HAVE ONE LAST PROBLEM.....

I just got word that I am hired at my new job which works me from 7 to 530 mon thru friday and every other saturday. I start monday NEXT WEEK and it is tuesday here. The service dock here doesnt have availability to outhaul until next week on wednesday. NO TIME AT ALL to have her outhaled and surveyed during the day. However I'M free daily all this week...

Hes willing to let me make a down payment and sign her over, following monthly payments.

Should I do a fine tuning self survey one last time, and take her out on a test myself within this week? (Minnewaska I know where your coming from. Theres LOTS more about surveying than quick glances at things. Ive been reading Don Caseys Sailboat Maintanence manual religiously and all these forums to help me. )

Im thinking the head just needs a rebuild kit, and the owner said vhf radios dont pick up signal if the batts arent fully charged.

I want to make a list of things that I seem unfit to respectfully/hopefully barter with the guy on price. Plus i just calculated docking/slip fees and insurance fees and realized Id end up broke til payday.

This is a devirginizing experience and Im not rich, but this is also the biggest thing Ive wanted to do with my life.

Ive turned to the wonderful, experienced folks here on sailnet for advice. I need to make a decision soon and not having any sailing buddies to turn to, you guys and gals are all I got!
Do you plan to live on this boat right away so you can offset boat expenses with the saved living expenses? Remember a boat will cost you about double what you expect and even if you are skilled with your hands, boat work will take you 3 times longer than you expect. Make sure you have enough time and money set aside for these over runs.

Generally in my opinion, if somthing does not look right or feel right, somthing is wrong. If you have been reading about boat inspection and have a good handle on mechanical things, I think you could self inspect and find any major problems. One thing might be difficult is the hull/kell joint and connection. Post some pics of inside the bilge and of the keel bolts and you can get some opinions. Don't jump into this to fast- there are lots of good cheap boats in Florida.
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I will post pics for you guys when i go check her out again. Last time I looked there were no rust stains or major corrosion issues. But your eyes are better than mine. I will take pics and post all things I find sketchy
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I will post pics for you guys when i go check her out again. Last time I looked there were no rust stains or major corrosion issues. But your eyes are better than mine. I will take pics and post all things I find sketchy
Cool. Try to take some pics of mast, mast step (deck or keel?). Chain Plates (inside and outside). Standing rigging including turnbuckels and wires. Keel bolts, running rigging, deck.

Go around the deck and tap with say a coin. If you hear a no solid sound but hear a thump sound, that could indicate a wet core and rot. Look for any soft spots in the deck as you walk. Look for rust stains around deck bedded fittings.

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