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Re: The great sailboat giveaway!

Well GDACS is magically online this morning. It appears to be a new site also.

I'll stick with the Red Cross should I feel an overwhelming need to donate or help disaster relief.

"Help us fix up boats to sell and donate the proceeds to disaster relief"
Would be a more appropriate ave. to drive imho.
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Re: The great sailboat giveaway!

Cool idea. Sounds like a great opportunity for the right person.


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I suspect you are displaying a sense of humor?! I think all your questions will be answered on this website International Rescue Group - Coastal post-disaster rescue

Like all charities, IRG is a nonprofit dependent on volunteers. We are accepting donated boats and allocating them to volunteer crew. There are plenty of people who would love a boat but can't afford one, we are providing people a chance to cruise an agreed station and, when emergencies occur like tsunami, earthquake, hurricane etc., within reach, take medical supplies and other life-saving items to the post-disaster zone under IRG's direction.

I'd hardly call it "indentured servitude"!

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hey joe why are you never on the chat?
I absolutely detest online chat. I have enough interrupts in my life as it is, with phone, mobile phone, text messages, pagers, email.....and I am forced to use MOC (Microsoft Communicator) during work hours....it's a serious pain in the ass when you're focusing on something or busy and someone pops up a conversation on your desktop....you're obliged to answer it in a timely manner (so as not to be rude)....

I used IRC alot way back when it first came out....it just got to be such an intrusion when you get online and multiple windows start popping up.

I just like to have more control over my communications....when I respond...the medium used....and I know you can control your online visibility and all...I just prefer not to use them.
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Re: The great sailboat giveaway!

It seems unlikely that a handful of sailboats could offer material succor to disasters happening in random locations around the world. would this be a conceit depending on having no concept of global distance and sailing times?

One thing does seem for sure - the organizer is building a custom boat, and plans to cruise the south seas for a few years, all apparently with other people's money.
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Re: The great sailboat giveaway!

These jokers would go ... but they'll also need someone else's money to do it.

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Re: The great sailboat giveaway!

I think I can see some potential. The idea seems to be, (I assume the boat will be preloaded with medical supplies), cruise near potential disaster spots, when disaster seems iminent cruise closer, and call other volunteers on radio, and coordinate efforts.

As a Red cross plane will beat you to the disaster everytime, you will be mostly operating as a mobile floating command post.

You will in return get a free, (lower than owning), cost floating room, that you will work to pay for by fundraising for this organisation.

Assuming you are already financially taken care of, and wan't to help people, I don't see a big problem.
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Re: The great sailboat giveaway!

Ever since the dot com bust in 2000, more and more entrepreneurs have abandoned the private start-up world as a means of building wealth, and in stead have discovered the joys of non-profits. What good the non-profit may do, does not really matter, as long as it appeals to some bone in the American public body.

I think the most recent local example, was the guy jamming people into a centerboard boat, then collecting donations. Tossed a boatload into San Diego bay.

The possibilities are endless, and the business plans don't need to stand the test of a unforgiving market, just that of a gullible public.
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Re: The great sailboat giveaway!

Well I'm starting to think it sounds much more reasonable, that any major repairs/refit would be provided for by the organization(eg re-powering, pumps, tanks hoses etc).

While upkeep(cleaning the bottom, pumping out, general boat care) would be provided by the volunteers.


In regards to location, I think the idea is less that boats would be passage-making and crossing oceans, but more that these boats would be stationed cruising in areas that might need assistance, with a large amount of their available storage used to store goods which would be needed in that emergency, which is actually a fairly interesting concept, initially not helpful, but if it scales up well it could actually be quite interesting with enough of them around.

Sort of like HAM radio people and their integration into disaster relief groups.

Would there be some provision for returning to work for some time to continue funding the cruising, 2 years is a long haul without the ability to make some money to pay for it.


I've noticed this with other groups, the issue is rarely getting donations of equipment and vehicles, there's so much excess floating around unused that that's the easy part, the hard part is actually being able to put it to good use.
There is a small organization here that has had good success with donated tools and equipment that would otherwise go for scrap, mostly funded out of the founders' pockets and a huge amount of hard work, the kind of work you'd only do for a goal you believed in. It's now a community shop with affordable workshops on any topic for which they have the tools, and access to the sorts of tools that I couldn't afford to have on my own, for less than I pay for internet each month.
One of the founders lives aboard a boat near me that he is slowly restoring after saving it from the scrap heap since there were so few made.
He started a repair shop, and worked hard to create a solid business repairing cars, he's one of the nicest and most helpful people I've ever met, with the integrity and honesty that is rarely see. They certainly aren't making a huge profit(considering that they work for free to make it run, and put tons of money into it). If they ever do make it to the point they can draw a salary for their hours I would certainly think it reasonable considering the risks, effort and labor they've put in.
He's an entrepreneur alright, and he's built a sold business doing good work, skills he now leverages to help others, so not everyone doing so is as you suggest.

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Re: The great sailboat giveaway!

I can just stow enough stuff aboard to keep myself alive let alone enough stuff at 5 knots to be any good to anybody else ?
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