Paperwork... - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > General Interest > General Discussion (sailing related)
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 08-03-2012
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 38
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
ckmeans is on a distinguished road
Paperwork...

So I decided to pull the trigger on the Hunter 30...The boat started up after sitting since april after only about 10 seconds...Runs great...I told the owner I'd like to go forward with it and he told me he doesn't have any of the "paperwork" yet.

He bought the boat in april, and the documentation paper work is still with the coast guard, and apparently is still 3 weeks out. Does the title generally get sent to the coast guard in order to document the boat...Seems a bit fishy that he wouldn't have that, right?

Obviously i can't register or document and insure the boat without a title or documentation...
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 08-03-2012
hellosailor's Avatar
Plausible Deniability
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 10,611
Thanks: 2
Thanked 87 Times in 85 Posts
Rep Power: 10
hellosailor has a spectacular aura about hellosailor has a spectacular aura about
Re: Paperwork...

Call the Vessel Documentation Center directly and ask them how long their processing times are. Find out what the status of that boat is/was.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 08-03-2012
eherlihy's Avatar
Learning the HARD way...
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Boston Area
Posts: 3,514
Thanks: 110
Thanked 59 Times in 58 Posts
Rep Power: 8
eherlihy will become famous soon enough
Re: Paperwork...

When I worked my way through the process in 2010 it was >4 MONTHS...

Be prepared to wait a while.

The people with the USCG NDC are great on the phone, but they are upfront that they are short staffed, and lead times are loooooong.

Why is the guy selling the boat if he has only owned it for 3 months?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 08-03-2012
SVAuspicious's Avatar
Mermaid Hunter
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: on the boat - Chesapeake
Posts: 3,253
Thanks: 0
Thanked 94 Times in 83 Posts
Rep Power: 8
SVAuspicious will become famous soon enough
Re: Paperwork...

NVDC is running behind these days; they're up through late May as of yesterday (see USCG National Vessel Documentation Center, PDF Page ). The USCG documentation IS for a federal title. You can walk things through by visiting Falling Waters WV but do call ahead. Regardless, make and keep copies of everything you submit.
__________________
sail fast and eat well, dave
S/V Auspicious
AuspiciousWorks.com
beware "cut and paste" sailors.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 08-03-2012
PorFin's Avatar
Señor Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,340
Thanks: 1
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 8
PorFin is on a distinguished road
Re: Paperwork...

Interesting.

I just submitted a renewal form, but neglected to annotate my doc number -- they returned the form to me in less than a week, highlighting my error.

When we purchased out boat, getting the documentation transferred was a bit of a goat rope because the PO still had an outstanding bank note on the hull. His bank had little intetrest in expediting their notification to the NVDC that the note had been cleared -- we had to twiddle our thumbs until that had been done.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 08-03-2012
ASA and PSIA Instructor
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,447
Thanks: 6
Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts
Rep Power: 15
sailingfool will become famous soon enough
Re: Paperwork...

Quote:
Originally Posted by ckmeans View Post
... Does the title generally get sent to the coast guard in order to document the boat...Seems a bit fishy that he wouldn't have that, right?.....
in my experience documented boats dont have titles. You work off a bill of sale, which should be adequate for insurance, and you submit it to the USCG using their form (see USCG National Vessel Documentation Center, Forms Page). It would nto be a bad idea to hire a documentation specialist to handle the paperwork, but to also advise you regard the circumstances of the proceeding documentation. It may be a few hundred dollars worth spending.
__________________
Certified...in several regards...
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 08-03-2012
hellosailor's Avatar
Plausible Deniability
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 10,611
Thanks: 2
Thanked 87 Times in 85 Posts
Rep Power: 10
hellosailor has a spectacular aura about hellosailor has a spectacular aura about
Re: Paperwork...

" It would nto be a bad idea to hire a documentation specialist to handle the paperwork,"
But comrade, American sailors already have been forced to hire a documentation specialist. And forced to pay for this with their tax moneys. And that specialist works for slave wages at the Vessel Documentation Center, answering all questions by phone, fax, mail, email, and even in person.

For rich yachtsmen who carefully do not pick up filthy telephone and making calls with it, it is better to hire an attorney to contract with a private documentation service to make contacts with the slave laborer at the NVDC, but it is also true that there are being very few reports of contagious social diseases coming from direct contact without all the middlemen.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
EPA seeks comments on MSD and paperwork changes kd3pc General Discussion (sailing related) 0 07-19-2010 11:35 AM
Obtaining PHRF paperwork jnorten Racing 4 02-05-2010 08:01 AM
Paperwork ready for you @ $$$ The Daily Sail $$$ NewsReader News Feeds 0 04-20-2006 06:18 AM
DR Paperwork -- where? EscapeArtist Seamanship & Navigation 7 11-01-2002 04:32 AM
Paperwork Needed for Voyaging SailNet Cruising Articles 0 07-31-2002 08:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:08 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.