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Hey,

So ever since I bought my boat (in 2006) I have not very happy with the sailing performance. I have been working to make it better and I'm almost there.

This weekend I sailed from my home port, Mt. Sinai NY, to Northport, about 22nm away. The weather forecast was very favorable, south winds, 10-15 kts on Saturday and stronger on Sunday. Since the trip is mostly east / west, a south wind is perfect because there is no room for waves to develop.

The trip there was great. I fought a foul current on the way there so the speed over ground wasn't great but the speed through water was. More importantly, the boat sailed great. I was even able to tack upwind into Huntington Harbor and make good time doing it. In 8-12 kts wind I was able to tack within 90 degrees and have good speed too. I outpointed a Cal 33, and sailed faster than a Pearson 30.

The trip home was really great. The engine was on for about 5 minutes when I left the harbor and didn't go on again until I dropped my sails back home. In the meantime I sailed past a C&C (30-35, couldn't tell) and I sailed up to and then past a newish Hunter 38. In fairness I have no idea of those other boats were trying or not.

Anyway, once out in the sound the wind started as 12-15 due south (putting it right on my beam) and then increased. When it was steady at 17 I put a reef in the main. The boat sailed flatter, had less weather helm, and didn't go any slower either. At slack water I was hitting 7.5 kts steady and cracked 8 a number of times. The highest speed I saw was 8.8, but this was later, with a fair current. Those speeds were from my GPS. The knotmeter must need to be calibrated because it was over 7 all day and over 8 often (and my hull speed is around 7.5). Once past Port Jefferson I expected the wind to decrease because of some high bluffs. Instead the wind got shifty and gusty. I got hit with a few 22-23 kt blasts. My autopilot (a real old Autohelm 3000) didn't like that but worked fine. I heeled over 25 degrees but popped back up when the gust ended.

Of course, with the weather conditions I had ANY boat would have sailed well. I mean beam winds at 15 kts is just about perfect.

I'm home now and back in love with my boat. I'm showing her the love too, with a new mainsail on order.

Barry
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7.5! Very nice barry!!


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Re: I'm in love

Reefing the main early is something we all need to learn to do. So often we keep the damn thing full, I think maybe cos we feel its a bit soppy to reef. Reality is though and BFS notwithstanding, she'll sail flatter, faster and with less weather helm.
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Nice report Barry.
The new main sail will make your sweet heart sail even faster!

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Hey Barry happy to hear of the good sail. I had a beauty
Sat on the south shore . Set sail from bergen point about 1:30 headineast. And was surprised to find myself making kismet and home by 6:30. The "new" boat was so solid and responsive....nice when it all comes together isn't......today I got blown all over while trying to free a jamned halyard on the winch ya just never know!
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Re: I'm in love

Depending upon the main chosen etc, you may not have to reef for another couple of knots depending upon how big the jib/genoa is. Temps also contribute to how soon you need to reef/reduce sail too. I have found in 80F temps, I can go higher in winds before reducing vs say a 35-40F temp. as the air molecules are closer together in colder temps than higher. Not that we notice it as much as humans, but our sail cloth seems to.

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Barry,

You're not going to believe this, but at about 14:30 on July 4th The Admiral and I were transiting from Vinyard Sound, to Buzzards Bay through Quicks Hole. According to the tide charts we were either at slack, or had a little current against us. The wind was coming out of the SW, and we were on a beam reach. Seas were virtually flat through the hole, as we were protected by Cuttyhunk and Naushon Islands. We were cooking!

Here is the log from my chartplotter;

..... Time | Elevation | LegLength | Leg Time | SOG | Course | Position
490 7/4/2012 2:32:35 PM 15 ft 324 ft 0:00:30 6 kt 306° true N41 26.128 W70 50.323
491 7/4/2012 2:33:05 PM 13 ft 373 ft 0:00:30 7 kt 318° true N41 26.159 W70 50.381
492 7/4/2012 2:33:35 PM 10 ft 427 ft 0:00:30 8 kt 320° true N41 26.204 W70 50.436
493 7/4/2012 2:34:05 PM 11 ft 425 ft 0:00:30 8 kt 329° true N41 26.258 W70 50.496
494 7/4/2012 2:34:35 PM 19 ft 458 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 330° true N41 26.318 W70 50.544
495 7/4/2012 2:35:05 PM 21 ft 467 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 332° true N41 26.383 W70 50.594
496 7/4/2012 2:35:35 PM 15 ft 454 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 340° true N41 26.451 W70 50.642
497 7/4/2012 2:36:05 PM 15 ft 465 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 345° true N41 26.521 W70 50.677
498 7/4/2012 2:36:35 PM 11 ft 440 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 347° true N41 26.595 W70 50.703
499 7/4/2012 2:37:05 PM 8 ft 479 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 344° true N41 26.665 W70 50.725
500 7/4/2012 2:37:35 PM 5 ft 450 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 351° true N41 26.741 W70 50.753
501 7/4/2012 2:38:05 PM 7 ft 459 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 340° true N41 26.814 W70 50.768
502 7/4/2012 2:38:35 PM 8 ft 481 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 333° true N41 26.885 W70 50.802
503 7/4/2012 2:39:05 PM 7 ft 464 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 339° true N41 26.955 W70 50.850
504 7/4/2012 2:39:35 PM 7 ft 420 ft 0:00:30 8 kt 341° true N41 27.026 W70 50.887
505 7/4/2012 2:40:05 PM 8 ft 452 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 346° true N41 27.091 W70 50.918
506 7/4/2012 2:40:35 PM 2 ft 393 ft 0:00:30 8 kt 336° true N41 27.163 W70 50.941
507 7/4/2012 2:41:05 PM 4 ft 362 ft 0:00:30 7 kt 326° true N41 27.223 W70 50.976
508 7/4/2012 2:41:35 PM 5 ft 331 ft 0:00:30 7 kt 320° true N41 27.272 W70 51.021

Note that these are averages recorded over 30 Second intervals. At the time, I believe that I saw 9.3 on the screen...

But then again, we were sailing downhill

I LOVE my boat! - same make and model as yours
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Hi Eherlihy,

Wow, that is some fast sailing!

My boat has the shoal draft keel and I feel that really hurts my pointing ability. By being careful about tuning the rig (I have a little more work to do) and being careful about headsail car placement I have gotten satisfactory performance. I can tack to around 90 degrees and still have decent boat speed. I can live with that.

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Barry,

You're not going to believe this, but at about 14:30 on July 4th The Admiral and I were transiting from Vinyard Sound, to Buzzards Bay through Quicks Hole. According to the tide charts we were either at slack, or had a little current against us. The wind was coming out of the SW, and we were on a beam reach. Seas were virtually flat through the hole, as we were protected by Cuttyhunk and Naushon Islands. We were cooking!

Here is the log from my chartplotter;

..... Time | Elevation | LegLength | Leg Time | SOG | Course | Position
490 7/4/2012 2:32:35 PM 15 ft 324 ft 0:00:30 6 kt 306° true N41 26.128 W70 50.323
491 7/4/2012 2:33:05 PM 13 ft 373 ft 0:00:30 7 kt 318° true N41 26.159 W70 50.381
492 7/4/2012 2:33:35 PM 10 ft 427 ft 0:00:30 8 kt 320° true N41 26.204 W70 50.436
493 7/4/2012 2:34:05 PM 11 ft 425 ft 0:00:30 8 kt 329° true N41 26.258 W70 50.496
494 7/4/2012 2:34:35 PM 19 ft 458 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 330° true N41 26.318 W70 50.544
495 7/4/2012 2:35:05 PM 21 ft 467 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 332° true N41 26.383 W70 50.594
496 7/4/2012 2:35:35 PM 15 ft 454 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 340° true N41 26.451 W70 50.642
497 7/4/2012 2:36:05 PM 15 ft 465 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 345° true N41 26.521 W70 50.677
498 7/4/2012 2:36:35 PM 11 ft 440 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 347° true N41 26.595 W70 50.703
499 7/4/2012 2:37:05 PM 8 ft 479 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 344° true N41 26.665 W70 50.725
500 7/4/2012 2:37:35 PM 5 ft 450 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 351° true N41 26.741 W70 50.753
501 7/4/2012 2:38:05 PM 7 ft 459 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 340° true N41 26.814 W70 50.768
502 7/4/2012 2:38:35 PM 8 ft 481 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 333° true N41 26.885 W70 50.802
503 7/4/2012 2:39:05 PM 7 ft 464 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 339° true N41 26.955 W70 50.850
504 7/4/2012 2:39:35 PM 7 ft 420 ft 0:00:30 8 kt 341° true N41 27.026 W70 50.887
505 7/4/2012 2:40:05 PM 8 ft 452 ft 0:00:30 9 kt 346° true N41 27.091 W70 50.918
506 7/4/2012 2:40:35 PM 2 ft 393 ft 0:00:30 8 kt 336° true N41 27.163 W70 50.941
507 7/4/2012 2:41:05 PM 4 ft 362 ft 0:00:30 7 kt 326° true N41 27.223 W70 50.976
508 7/4/2012 2:41:35 PM 5 ft 331 ft 0:00:30 7 kt 320° true N41 27.272 W70 51.021

Note that these are averages recorded over 30 Second intervals. At the time, I believe that I saw 9.3 on the screen...

But then again, we were sailing downhill

I LOVE my boat! - same make and model as yours

Barry Lenoble
Deep Blue C, 2002 C&C 110
Mt. Sinai, NY

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Good to hear Barry, It is nice when it all comes together. Makes it worth it for the times when it all falls apart!


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