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mongo822002 08-06-2012 08:28 PM

St. Lawrance ?
 
Was wandering about the st lawrance river and if you need a pasport and do you go through canadian customs, did not want to go through NY state to the atlantic.

Perseverance 08-06-2012 08:40 PM

Re: St. Lawrance ?
 
Americans do not need a pasport to go in or out of Canada. I found going in very easy in lake huron. Coming back is much easier if you preregister your boat with customs. You may not be coming back till Maine.

mongo822002 08-07-2012 06:20 PM

Re: St. Lawrance ?
 
Is it because of being in a boat or international water that americans dont need a passport? Because going to canada in a car you need one now and because of there changing laws last winter I was going to go but I got turned around because of a careless driving that had always been on my record since the first time I went into canada. Im trying to plan a low cost trip south from lake michigan and didnt want to use gas on the erie canal but realy wanted to sail the st lawrance. I do not want to get turned around back to chicago or have to motor the erie. I also feel its to early to start down chicago and the mississipi but if I have to go through chicago I would rather wait a month or so than get spun around.
thanks
Jason

bljones 08-07-2012 06:25 PM

Re: St. Lawrance ?
 
Whehter you have a passport or not, if you have been turned back at the border once, chances are it may happen again. Since clearing customs is mandatory to run the welland canal, you might want to consider taking the backroad route and go down the mississippi.
I have never heard of anyone being refused entry due to a careless driving charge. This is a first

mongo822002 08-07-2012 06:56 PM

Re: St. Lawrance ?
 
Thanks, how long do you think it would take to use a 9 hp motor to do the erie to the hudson to NYC. Im under the impresion the mast is down for all of NY state and I would need a crane to put it up however many times.

Bilgewater 08-07-2012 07:16 PM

Re: St. Lawrance ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Perseverance (Post 906277)
Americans do not need a pasport to go in or out of Canada.

Yes they do.

Quote:

Bottom line: Since June 2009, everyone from every country arriving in Canada by air, land and sea has needed a passport or equivalent travel document. (Some exceptions apply to children's passport requirements). Besides an up-to-date passport, visitors may instead have an equivalent travel document, such as a NEXUS Card.

In Depth: Passport requirements have been a complicated and ever changing issue for U.S. travellers to Canada for the past few years due to the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI), which was introduced in 2004 by the U.S. government to strengthen U.S. border security and standardize travel documentation.

Visitors from any country other than the U.S. have always needed a passport to enter Canada. On the other hand, because of a friendly border crossing agreement between Canada and the United States, Canada Border Services did not require U.S. citizens to present a passport to enter Canada. This friendly border crossing agreement used to be mutual; however, now the WHTI requires that U.S. citizens have a passport to return home. In this way, passport requirements for Canada and U.S. borders are different on paper, but, are in practice, the same. Canada will not allow a U.S. citizen into the country who does not have the proper documentation to return home.

One thing is certain about passport requirements: the trend for essential travel documents, even between neighbouring countries like Canada and the U.S. and Mexico, is toward increased security and standardization. A passport - or equivalent travel document - is a must.

Minnewaska 08-07-2012 08:03 PM

Re: St. Lawrance ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mongo822002 (Post 906688)
Thanks, how long do you think it would take to use a 9 hp motor to do the erie to the hudson to NYC. Im under the impresion the mast is down for all of NY state and I would need a crane to put it up however many times.

The size and hp of your boat won't matter at all on the Erie Canal, as it is speed limited most of the way. There is a website for the canal, look it up. I recall it being 7 to 10 days to cross. There are marinas on each end that are accustom to stepping masts. Probably another 2 to 3 days to get to NYC.


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