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Re: Drunk boater had 16 kids on 22-foot boat

I know you're not defending him Bill. But ...

This guy has no defense...zero, nada..ugatz. A month ago 3 children drowned when a 34 ft silverton went down with 27 people on board, in nearby waters. It made national headlines.

He would have to have been on a different planet after that, to not be aware the dangers of overloading a boat.

Additionally, there was no reason, whatsoever, for alcohol to be onboard.

And yes, I'd be questioning the parents of these kids to see what the hell was on their minds...

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I know I am new here, but it very easily could have been one of these very popular wakeboard boats and as mentioned two or three beers. Check the capacity (not that I am in anyway justifying this guys behavior- he was def wrong.) I just would like a few more facts as well before judging the level of stupidity.

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Re: Drunk boater had 16 kids on 22-foot boat

Ok....let's take the boat above:

It says Capacity 15 passengers

Then it says Capacity 2100 lbs. Is that total capacity, including passengers, engine and gear?

Let's assume for a minute the total capacity is 2100 lbs.

The weight of a new Yamaha 350 HP outboard is 804 lbs. Yamaha 350 Horsepower V-8 Outboard: The World's Most Powerful Outboard Motor Ever

Leaving 1300 lbs for persons, gear, fuel etc.

Divide 1300 by the NEW CG assumed weight per person of 185 lbs and you have a capacity of 7 persons ...excluding gear and fuel...

Let's assume they meant just persons..in the 2100 lbs... 2100/185 = 11 persons.

So either way..the number of advertised persons would be incorrect.

I can't believe that a 3800 lb boat is going to carry...2100 lbs of people...800 lbs of motor plus fuel and gear.

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Re: Drunk boater had 16 kids on 22-foot boat

Powerboater I presume?

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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Those boats have pumps to take on 1500 pounds of water as ballast - makes for bigger wakes. The engine is an inboard V8 so I assume thats not included. Anyway, my point was that it would be nice if there was much more information in the article.

I should add that I also think it is pretty irresponsible to be drinking when you are responsible for 16 minors, even if you are on land or anywhere.
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Personally, I think it is false and misleading to advertise that a 22' boat has a 15 passenger capacity, and then only allow for a total weight carrying capacity of 2100 lbs. An inexperienced newbie might think he can buy the boat and then throw a veritable "block party" on his boat, with a mix of 15 adults and children, when any experienced boater would understand that the gunwales would be awash.

In this case, 16 children plus however many adults were present was even beyond the extremely optimistic estimate of the marketing department of the very popular Wakeboard boats. IMO, only a well-paid expert witness would conclude that the boat wasn't overloaded with 16 children plus adults, irrespective of whether the operator was drunk. I think this case is indefensible on the issue of negligence based on overloading. The question of whether the operator was drunk only exacerbates his culpability.

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I hope the guy is facing 16 counts of child endangerment......


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Each of the kids brought a Forty as the admission ticket. Good times.


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Many times I invited people to go fishing. They always seemed to show up with 2 cases of beer.I had to explain there was no room for all that beer as fishing and drunks make poor companions. As the Captain I refrained and didn't allow more than a 6 pack per person on board. For some reason people seem to combine boats and booze. And not being adverse to the sundowner or 4 at anchor myself I can relate but all that sun and waves combined with motion sickness issue reduce tolerance a lot.
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Re: Drunk boater had 16 kids on 22-foot boat

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.... as fishing and drunks make poor companions......
Huh????? What?????

Man, I've been doing it all wrong for years......

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.
Teach a man to fish and he'll disappear all day getting drunk with his buddies.
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