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Outboard motor and blue water sailing?

Hello - I've got a quick question;

I've currently got a 1972 Grampian 26. I really like this boat and would like to do a little more extensive traveling with it. I did bring it down the intracoastal from Norfolk to New Orleans two years ago. I'd like to go to the Caribbean soon.

I have decent sailing experience - I crewed in the Med for quite a while.

My question is : the Grampian has an exposed transom mounted outboard. What do you think about extended offshore jumps with this setup?
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Re: Outboard motor and blue water sailing?

You may get a lot of negative comments about outboards and ocean sailing, but if you are only using the outboard for the last few miles into your destination the prop coming out of the water in big swells and waves is probably not an issue.

Grampian's have crossed the Atlantic, but that is probably more the skill of the skipper than the quality of boat.

You may want to upgrade cockpit scuppers and reduce the cockpit area.
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Re: Outboard motor and blue water sailing?

You will not be able to motor in any seas as the motor will get swamped on a regular basis. Only in calms or harbours. You can think about a cockpit well (Atom Voyages - Outboard motor well for a Taipan 28 sailboat), but I have no personal experience, how well it works.
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That is a pretty interesting article about building the well. I'll have to think about that.
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Re: Outboard motor and blue water sailing?

We had a Coronado 25 that had a well that put the motor shaft about a foot ahead of the water line at the stern. For many years we took it outside of San Francisco Bay into the open ocean under power to go salmon fishing. With a 20 inch shaft we had no problems with the prop coming out of the water. Cutting up your boat to install a well looks like a big job. I think the transom mounted motor would be marginal at best, based on what I have seen on other boats. Maybe another boat with a well already built in from the factory?

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Re: Outboard motor and blue water sailing?

Hey, It"s a sailboat and you have sailing experience. Sail it! Use the outboard just for when you need it. One advantage is that you can (I assume) lift the motor up and eliminate that drag in the water. Lots of cruisers spend big bucks for feathering props to minimize this problem. Sail now and decide as you go along on what changes to make on your boat.
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Re: Outboard motor and blue water sailing?

I would suggest leaving it where it is, it wont get swamped. The best set up might be a Honda 2.5 air cooled so you can just pop it off when you don't need it. Many boats have circumnavigated with a small outboard or nothing. You might get some negative feedback here but ignore it. The problem with modern sailing yachts is that 99% of them are designs as motor sailors not sailboats. I sail about 3 times a week and see people motoring everywhere and then bitching that there is not enough or too much wind to sail. Its a basic fact that few people actually use their sailboats primarily as sailboats. The weight of the outboard is more of a concern, I suggest going as light as possible, if there is too much wind for it then sail. Either way it will be an adventure, remember KISS, Keep It Simple Sailor
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Re: Outboard motor and blue water sailing?

Just completed a trip of five weeks to the Sea of Abaco, left Ft Laud and returned to Ft Worth. I have a 23 Compact with a 4 Hp Tohatsu. Two tropical depressions occurred. You won't be able to go against current, wind and waves at the same time. The prop does come out of the water when the boat hobby horses, you have a small boat like me so it will. It's doable, the motor was dependable though it fell apart after an 18 hr trip to Memory Rock which was like being in a washing machine. I bolted it back together and it ran fine and still does. I'd say go on your trip it's very beautiful there, get a new motor, I got the 4 hp cause it was light and I used it on the dingy. Fair Winds
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