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Re: Hurricane is a comin, now what???

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since the boat is only 25 foot have you considered pulling it out of the water at a local marina? Then you can hightail it out of there to safe ground, no boat is worth your life and 25 foot boat is nowhere to be a hurricane.....captg
Or putting your boat on a trailer - isn't the Coronado desgined for trailering?
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Re: Hurricane is a comin, now what???

My slip lease gives me 2 choices in the event a named storm approaches within 300 miles of the marina: 1. Haul out; 2. Leave.

It seems reasonable to me. The marina owner has a right to preserve its property from damage. If I violate the slip lease and my boat damages the dock, then I would be liable for damages. I plan to haul out. My insurance pays for half the costs of my haul out and powerwash, and my boat's bottom needs cleaning, so hauling out sounds good to me.

In Virginia, a contract can be set aside if it is unconscionable, or obtained by fraud or duress. "Unconscionable" is so unfair as to shock the conscience of the court, the kind no reasonable person would agree to at the time the contract was signed.

No one tricked me into signing, or forced me to sign, and I don't think the slip lease is so unfair as to be unconscionable. After all, I was willing to sign it while the sun was shining and the waves were calm.

I don't see why a slip lease clause requiring removal in the event of a hurricane should not be enforced. If you do not like it, keep your boat somewhere else. On a more general note, why should the government (the courts in this case) keep saving people from their own stupidity?
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Re: Hurricane is a comin, now what???

In case you are interested, a good site for tracking hurricanes is here:

Hurricane Spaghetti Models / Spaghetti Charts / Tropical Forecast / Hurricane Charts Models / Tropical Update

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Re: Hurricane is a comin, now what???

I actually don't mind about the dockage agreement. The canal that my slip is in faces the ocean, and I'm in the first slip at the end of the canal. I'll feel much safer with Serenity out of the path of the waves, which are predicted to be up to 20 feet on Monday.
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Re: Hurricane is a comin, now what???

The Coronado was indeed designed to be the "largest trailerable sailboat" at the time of it's design, but I don't have a trailer, nor the time/means to get one in time.
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Re: Hurricane is a comin, now what???

Oh and I'm not in the hole yet, I'm driving cross country to get home, I'll be moving her Saturday (5 foot seas, 20 kt winds!)

Should be fun!
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Re: Hurricane is a comin, now what???

Put the extra anchors down near the main so the boat still can swing and drive 'em in. I used two on a 31' boat when a hurricane came to Norfolk and left the marina for an anchorage nearby. The anchors held well but clearly the boat made several rotations during the night. Had to untangle and they were deep in the mud but glad to say we came out fine. Also, be sure overboard drains are clear, and rainwater doesn't sink your baby. Good luck.
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Re: Hurricane is a comin, now what???

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In case you are interested, a good site for tracking hurricanes is here:

Hurricane Spaghetti Models / Spaghetti Charts / Tropical Forecast / Hurricane Charts Models / Tropical Update

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Thanks Brad, that site is one of the best I have seen.
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Re: Hurricane is a comin, now what???

[QUOTE=jameswilson29;913252]My slip lease gives me 2 choices in the event a named storm approaches within 300 miles of the marina: 1. Haul out; 2. Leave.

It seems reasonable to me. The marina owner has a right to preserve its property from damage. If I violate the slip lease and my boat damages the dock, then I would be liable for damages. I plan to haul out. My insurance pays for half the costs of my haul out and powerwash, and my boat's bottom needs cleaning, so hauling out sounds good to me.

In Virginia, a contract can be set aside if it is unconscionable, or obtained by fraud or duress. "Unconscionable" is so unfair as to shock the conscience of the court, the kind no reasonable person would agree to at the time the contract was signed.

No one tricked me into signing, or forced me to sign, and I don't think the slip lease is so unfair as to be unconscionable. After all, I was willing to sign it while the sun was shining and the waves were calm.

That seems fair and the marina does need to protect itself. I do feel that you really have only one choice if a major Storm is as close as 300 miles, I'm not going out there and would elect to go on the hard. Computer models have been very wrong in the past and sometime these things do not go as planned.

Back in 1998 Hurricane Mitch defied all computer models when it was suppose to turn NW it turned SW and stayed there for three days. A great book tells the story of the sailing ship FANTOME and her loss at the hands of Mitch. A great read, the best book I have ever read on the sea. (The Ship And The Storm by Jim Carrier).
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Re: Hurricane is a comin, now what???

Sitting at Gilbert's right now, they are full. Looking into my options as well, need to leave the boat for a couple of weeks even without the hurricane coming. So you can just pull up into any side creek or hole and hunker it down? How long can you leave one like that?
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