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talk about gettting caught.with your pants down

I went out sailing today waited for the rain to pass and went sailing. I got up to my summer house up the bay and realized the squalls of wind were getting bigger and stronger and even with the genny down i was still getting hit bad by the sqall ls and all most rounding up. So i said i can keep doing thi i was doing 2 knots in 20-25 mph winds. So i heading for my mooring i cam from the harbor were i had the boat at. So i stoped in and knew i have to reef but ive never set it up to i set it up quick now im at the summer house waiting for the squals to hipefully calm down a bit. Any tips for sailing in these strong winds. Im pretty sure some of the gusts were 30+ mph

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Re: talk about gettting caught.with your pants down

This is all my opinion, but if you're unable to reef, the sail you should drop is the main, not the jib.

You see, with the main up the "center of effort" is far aft, and causes a lot of weather helm, which causes you to round up in strong wind, and perhaps auto-tack against your will.

On Jib alone, the center of effort is far forward. You may have lee helm instead, but at least you won't be rounding up, and should maintain control of the boat.

A reefed main and a small, 90% jib in those conditions is the better configuration. The helm will be more balanced and you'll be in control.
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Re: talk about gettting caught.with your pants down

I think you answered your own question...set up to reef every time you go out and then reef earlier.
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Re: talk about gettting caught.with your pants down

I only have a 150 genny i can furk it in crappy sail shape but it stilk works

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Yeah...Furk it...

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Re: talk about gettting caught.with your pants down

well i reefed for nothing by time i left anchoage it was a bit calmer then so half way i un reefed and then i went sailing for a bit and almost back to the mooring i got kncocked down bit scraccy just held on tho boat went on it's side a lot and rounded up. had full sails up to it was really calm like 5-6 mph winds i was doing 2 knots at a 5 deggree heel and all of a sudden a huge gust came. big strong gust lasted a few seconds.

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Re: talk about gettting caught.with your pants down

Huck, a lot of folks are oblivious to the weather but on a boat you'll get hurt that way. You need to check the horizon every once in a while, see what weather is coming in, and learn to prepare for it. After a while it becomes unconcious, something you just DO when you're on a boat. Or, you'll eventually get caught and hurt by it.

Make a point, look up at the sky a couple of times every hour. See what's coming before it gets you.
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Re: talk about gettting caught.with your pants down

It's easier to shake a reef out if the wind is lighter than you expect than to attempt to reef single handed when the poop hits the paddles.
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Re: talk about gettting caught.with your pants down

Since you have internet access, sailflow.com can be a pretty good resource to prep you for anticipated wind and get some reefs in. NOAA also streams their weather buoy data. This one is from the Bay. Composite Plot It doesn't show much above 18 kts today, but it may have been different where you were.


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