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Re: WTH Chuckles? A freakin' mono????

I might as well weigh in also!

When we were thinking through this decision, we tried to focus on features that we felt would make transition to and maintenance of a live-aboard status workable for the two of us.

Carrying weight was the issue for livability, as well as really limited stand up interior living space in the Gem. Great for younger folks - less wonderful for us. We will miss the "one level" living of the Gem, but feel like access to the larger useable "living space" of our Irwin is a good trade off.

Underway comfort was a huge factor. We had the Gem out in several small craft advisories and frankly, while the boat did great, we got the crap pounded out of us. That's a function of the low bridge deck (every wave is a SLAM on the bottom) and the beam (14ft). Most likely this was a particular Chesapeake Bay issue, with the smaller period chop and power boat wakes. (When I did the delivery of s/v Felix with Dan we did open ocean from Cape May to Block Island and the Gem was a comfortable ride in pretty big swells.) A larger cat would not have those issues, and would have better cockpit seating for underway. In fact, we're seeing lots of larger (38, 40, 46, 50 ft) cats on the Bay in the last year or so.

I was surprised and delighted at the feel of the water/wind when I took the helm of the Irwin. I had forgotten what fun it was to feel the wind in the sails and the responsiveness of the rudder/boat. Its the difference between a Cadillac ride and a sports car hugging the road. One's a smooth ride: the other's fun to drive!

Our ideal boat is a Voyage 44 or something similar. A cat that size would eliminate the underway and living space issues above, but add significant cost to the equation. Not going to happen with our budget.

So. We compromised. I'm deeply sad to see the Gem go, but focusing fiercely on making the Irwin a home, because getting out there is the whole point.
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I might as well weigh in also!

When we were thinking through this decision, we tried to focus on features that we felt would make transition to and maintenance of a live-aboard status workable for the two of us.

Carrying weight was the issue for livability, as well as really limited stand up interior living space in the Gem. Great for younger folks - less wonderful for us. We will miss the "one level" living of the Gem, but feel like access to the larger useable "living space" of our Irwin is a good trade off.

Underway comfort was a huge factor. We had the Gem out in several small craft advisories and frankly, while the boat did great, we got the crap pounded out of us. That's a function of the low bridge deck (every wave is a SLAM on the bottom) and the beam (14ft). Most likely this was a particular Chesapeake Bay issue, with the smaller period chop and power boat wakes. (When I did the delivery of s/v Felix with Dan we did open ocean from Cape May to Block Island and the Gem was a comfortable ride in pretty big swells.) A larger cat would not have those issues, and would have better cockpit seating for underway. In fact, we're seeing lots of larger (38, 40, 46, 50 ft) cats on the Bay in the last year or so.

I was surprised and delighted at the feel of the water/wind when I took the helm of the Irwin. I had forgotten what fun it was to feel the wind in the sails and the responsiveness of the rudder/boat. Its the difference between a Cadillac ride and a sports car hugging the road. One's a smooth ride: the other's fun to drive!

Our ideal boat is a Voyage 44 or something similar. A cat that size would eliminate the underway and living space issues above, but add significant cost to the equation. Not going to happen with our budget.

So. We compromised. I'm deeply sad to see the Gem go, but focusing fiercely on making the Irwin a home, because getting out there is the whole point.
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Re: WTH Chuckles? A freakin' mono????

Wow Chuckles.

Have a good time.

Did you advertise on the yahoo site when you decided to sell?
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Re: WTH Chuckles? A freakin' mono????

WTF!!! Am I going to learn next that Sailing Dog traded in his telstar for a trawler?

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Not saying the Gemini doesn't work - after all Slapdash JUST completed a circumnav.
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Just finished the blog.

GREAT READ!!! That Gemini is a real Honey Badger!
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Re: WTH Chuckles? A freakin' mono????

Smack

If you can stand it, and haven't read it, another Gemini blog is SV Footprint (Begonia)

By stand it, I mean going through the entire long blog, and also the ending of the story.
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Another one???

Good lord woman! You're killin' me!
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Another one???

Good lord woman! You're killin' me!
Look at it this way: winter is coming - you need some reading material to tide you over until spring!
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Re: WTH Chuckles? A freakin' mono????

Smack, If you want a real Catamaran experience, go to Florida and rent a 40 something cat or a Gemini and take it to Bimini. Great crossing, and great fun. Split the cost with 7 of your closest friends and you can do it for 900 a head plus airfare. You'll know pretty quickly if a cat is for you when you get out in the gulf stream.

As for seasickness, it happens on a cat. Last trip one of the other boats had 5 out of 8 go down in the first hour. That left one of the less experienced crew driving the slowest boat. The result was a 12 hour trip that took the rest of us 9, and no one got better until they tied up.
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Re: WTH Chuckles? A freakin' mono????

nice boat!
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