Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > General Interest > General Discussion (sailing related)
 Not a Member? 


Like Tree4Likes
  • 1 Post By smurphny
  • 1 Post By Tempest
  • 1 Post By JimsCAL
  • 1 Post By csalatti
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 09-01-2012
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
BillRyan is on a distinguished road
Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

Planning a three-day trip with return from Port Washington to Montauk. Is it possible to do this trip in 3 days? What basic route should I follow? What stops and where should I plan to make? Any other suggestions would be very helpful. I have a mid-size keel, 40hp diesel engine, single inboard cruiser. Thanks in advance for your help.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 09-01-2012
tommays's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 4,245
Thanks: 1
Thanked 25 Times in 25 Posts
Rep Power: 7
tommays will become famous soon enough
Re: Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

In round figures it is 85 miles one way of pretty safe water the BIG issue is the further east you go the sound narrows and the speed of the current increases up towards 3.5 or more knots

This make the time of day you pass through those areas important and i find 50 miles is a long day in pleasure mode

I am not sure if your planing a 3 day round trip or one way as round trip would be pretty tough ?
__________________
1970 Cal 29 Sea Fever

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

1981 J24 Tangent 2930
Tommays
Northport NY


If a dirty bottom slows you down what do you think it does to your boat
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 09-01-2012
smurphny's Avatar
Over Hill Sailing Club
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Adirondacks NY
Posts: 2,853
Thanks: 55
Thanked 63 Times in 61 Posts
Rep Power: 6
smurphny is on a distinguished road
Re: Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

Welcome to the forum Bill! Yes you can do it in three days but as Tommays has mentioned you must time the currents correctly. CURRENT is what you're interested in, not tide tables. If you have a copy of Eldridge, it has all the info. you need. Pay special attention to the graphics of current movements in and around Plum Gut/The Race. I usually plot my tentative position, hour by hour, right on the little hourly charts of LIS, backtracking from just before Plum Gut where the current gets crazy. If I have to buck a knot of current in LIS for a while it's a hell of a lot better than hitting 4 knots (or better) at Plum. I have done this trip in either direction, usually from Port Jeff, a number of times easily in one day. From Port Washington, you'll need more time against current in the Sound. Whether you go via Plum or The Race, you need to hit them at the right time. Expect crappy square waves in Gardiner's for a while if you go Plum.

The wind on LIS is always a factor on this trip. If you have to beat into a opposing wind, it will throw a monkey wrench into your plan. 3 days is tight. So you need current timing and a weather window. Bailouts are few: Mattituck on the LI side or running over to Conn. in a northern blow. Avoid any prediction of high E/NE winds. The Sound can be nasty.
chef2sail likes this.
__________________
Alberg 35: With a philosophical flourish Cato throws himself upon his sword; I quietly take to the ship.

Last edited by smurphny; 09-01-2012 at 02:57 PM.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 09-02-2012
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
BillRyan is on a distinguished road
Re: Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

Thanks for the replies. Sounds like a return-trip to Montauk was too ambitious an idea. Is Port Washington to Old Saybrook, CT and back more doable in a three-day period? I was thinking of PW to Port Jeff on day 1 and then Port Jeff to Old Saybrook on day 2 and then return trip day 3 from Old Saybrook to Port Wash?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 09-02-2012
chef2sail's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Maryland
Posts: 6,964
Thanks: 29
Thanked 54 Times in 50 Posts
Rep Power: 7
chef2sail will become famous soon enough
Send a message via AIM to chef2sail
Re: Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

Here are some examples. On the current trip I am taking we ran from Port Jeff to Greenport in one day. Matituck to Northport in one day. It is true you must understand the currents. On the other hand any trip of 50 miles or so on the Sound will involve some time against it.

Dave
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
___________________________
S/V Haleakala (Hawaiian for" House of the Sun")
C&C 35 MKIII Hull # 76
Parkville, Maryland
(photos by Joe McCary)
Charter member of the Chesapeake Lion posse

Our blog-
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


“Sailing is just the bottom line, like adding up the score in bridge. My real interest is in the tremendous game of life.”- Dennis Conner
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 09-02-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,930
Thanks: 4
Thanked 34 Times in 34 Posts
Rep Power: 8
Tempest is on a distinguished road
Re: Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

Port Washington to Port Jeff is roughly 35 miles.. +/- 7 hours @ 5 kn. 6 hrs at 6 kn. etc.

Port Jeff to Old Saybrook as I recall is about 40 miles and a long angular trip across the sound. As chef said at some point the current will be slipping you east..and then west..
It's been rare that I've been able to make that crossing without motorsailing a good bit of the way. I figure about 8 hours to make the trip.
Which puts you at least 14/15 hours away from home with one day to get there..you should be able to obtain a decent three day forecast so, you'll know if having to face a 14 hour homeward trip is desirable.

I like Port Jeff.. I'd probably go there..spend a day relaxing and exploring, and then come home...but that's just me.

You could also..try to add another day..
chef2sail likes this.
__________________
Tempest
Sabre 34
Morgan, NJ
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 09-02-2012
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 24
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
csalatti is on a distinguished road
Re: Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

A couple of weeks ago I took a 3 day trip from from Oyster Bay to Black Rock Harbor (by Bridgeport) to Port Jeff. I was in a 36' mariner. We had to beat up wind the first day and it took us about 8 hrs sailing the whole time. Black Rock to PJ (day 2) only took us 3-4 hrs due to the 20+ knot wind so we sail around the Stratford (sp.) shoal before going in to pick up a mooring. We had to motor most of the way back to OB the 3rd day which took most of the day. Overall the trip had a relaxed pace, sailing for 6-8 hrs with plenty of time to experience the port we were in for the night (e.g. drink rum). I think sailing times from Port Wash would be fairly similar.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 09-02-2012
JimsCAL's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Glen Cove, NY
Posts: 2,426
Thanks: 2
Thanked 35 Times in 34 Posts
Rep Power: 8
JimsCAL is on a distinguished road
Re: Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

I would not plan on going any farther east than Port Jeff or Milford, CT. Unless you want to do nothing but sail (or motor) for miles and miles, catch a little sleep, and then do it all over again.
chef2sail likes this.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 09-03-2012
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 24
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
csalatti is on a distinguished road
Re: Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

I second JimsCAL thoughts. Unless you have the need/want to get to a specific destination, I would pick a port within 30-40nm. I find that when I use this range I am more likely to try reach port under sail and not put the engine on to "save time".
chef2sail likes this.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Crew Wanted Montauk to Port Washington, 11/15-16 Bene505 Crew Wanted/Available 27 11-23-2008 01:50 AM
Montauk to Port Washington next weekend Bene505 General Discussion (sailing related) 8 11-06-2008 01:25 PM
On the Bay (Port Washington News) NewsReader News Feeds 0 01-25-2007 03:15 PM
Port Washington YC Hosts the 2006 Make-A-Wish Regatta (Port Washington News) NewsReader News Feeds 0 09-08-2006 03:15 PM
On the Bay (Port Washington News) NewsReader News Feeds 0 09-08-2006 02:15 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:15 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.