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Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

Planning a three-day trip with return from Port Washington to Montauk. Is it possible to do this trip in 3 days? What basic route should I follow? What stops and where should I plan to make? Any other suggestions would be very helpful. I have a mid-size keel, 40hp diesel engine, single inboard cruiser. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Re: Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

In round figures it is 85 miles one way of pretty safe water the BIG issue is the further east you go the sound narrows and the speed of the current increases up towards 3.5 or more knots

This make the time of day you pass through those areas important and i find 50 miles is a long day in pleasure mode

I am not sure if your planing a 3 day round trip or one way as round trip would be pretty tough ?

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Re: Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

Welcome to the forum Bill! Yes you can do it in three days but as Tommays has mentioned you must time the currents correctly. CURRENT is what you're interested in, not tide tables. If you have a copy of Eldridge, it has all the info. you need. Pay special attention to the graphics of current movements in and around Plum Gut/The Race. I usually plot my tentative position, hour by hour, right on the little hourly charts of LIS, backtracking from just before Plum Gut where the current gets crazy. If I have to buck a knot of current in LIS for a while it's a hell of a lot better than hitting 4 knots (or better) at Plum. I have done this trip in either direction, usually from Port Jeff, a number of times easily in one day. From Port Washington, you'll need more time against current in the Sound. Whether you go via Plum or The Race, you need to hit them at the right time. Expect crappy square waves in Gardiner's for a while if you go Plum.

The wind on LIS is always a factor on this trip. If you have to beat into a opposing wind, it will throw a monkey wrench into your plan. 3 days is tight. So you need current timing and a weather window. Bailouts are few: Mattituck on the LI side or running over to Conn. in a northern blow. Avoid any prediction of high E/NE winds. The Sound can be nasty.
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Re: Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

Thanks for the replies. Sounds like a return-trip to Montauk was too ambitious an idea. Is Port Washington to Old Saybrook, CT and back more doable in a three-day period? I was thinking of PW to Port Jeff on day 1 and then Port Jeff to Old Saybrook on day 2 and then return trip day 3 from Old Saybrook to Port Wash?
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Re: Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

Here are some examples. On the current trip I am taking we ran from Port Jeff to Greenport in one day. Matituck to Northport in one day. It is true you must understand the currents. On the other hand any trip of 50 miles or so on the Sound will involve some time against it.

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Re: Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

Port Washington to Port Jeff is roughly 35 miles.. +/- 7 hours @ 5 kn. 6 hrs at 6 kn. etc.

Port Jeff to Old Saybrook as I recall is about 40 miles and a long angular trip across the sound. As chef said at some point the current will be slipping you east..and then west..
It's been rare that I've been able to make that crossing without motorsailing a good bit of the way. I figure about 8 hours to make the trip.
Which puts you at least 14/15 hours away from home with one day to get there..you should be able to obtain a decent three day forecast so, you'll know if having to face a 14 hour homeward trip is desirable.

I like Port Jeff.. I'd probably go there..spend a day relaxing and exploring, and then come home...but that's just me.

You could also..try to add another day..
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Re: Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

A couple of weeks ago I took a 3 day trip from from Oyster Bay to Black Rock Harbor (by Bridgeport) to Port Jeff. I was in a 36' mariner. We had to beat up wind the first day and it took us about 8 hrs sailing the whole time. Black Rock to PJ (day 2) only took us 3-4 hrs due to the 20+ knot wind so we sail around the Stratford (sp.) shoal before going in to pick up a mooring. We had to motor most of the way back to OB the 3rd day which took most of the day. Overall the trip had a relaxed pace, sailing for 6-8 hrs with plenty of time to experience the port we were in for the night (e.g. drink rum). I think sailing times from Port Wash would be fairly similar.
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Re: Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

I would not plan on going any farther east than Port Jeff or Milford, CT. Unless you want to do nothing but sail (or motor) for miles and miles, catch a little sleep, and then do it all over again.
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Re: Sailing from Port Washington to Montauk

I second JimsCAL thoughts. Unless you have the need/want to get to a specific destination, I would pick a port within 30-40nm. I find that when I use this range I am more likely to try reach port under sail and not put the engine on to "save time".
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