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LOL, was just talking about how I tend to start the engine while still in reverse and end up sailing with the motor idling backwards while I start to take down the sails.
+1 Yeah I am guilty of that one a couple of times myself.

I also just lost my pen behind my ear. haha
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Okay, so yesterday was probably the best day of sailing I've had all season - if not ever!

I was out with my wife, my brother and his two sons (13 & 15).

The wind was blowing 15 plus with gusts higher than that. We went for at least 2 - hours without dropping below 6.5, with long periods of being in the low 7's! The boys were at the wheel most of the time and did a great job. The younger one even handled a couple of tacks.

We stopped in at an anchorage for lunch, where the boys swam and kayaked for a while. I put a reef in the main before we headed out as some of the gusts had knocked us down a bit on the way up.

So, off we go on the 10-mile jaunt home. We left the anchorage under power and got out into the wind. The main went up without a hitch and we sailed toward the marker that was our turning point to settle into a beam/broad reach home. We were making 5.5 under reefed main on a close reach.

It had been recommended to me that I stick the shift into reverse gear when sailing in order to reduce hum and to not allow the prop to free-wheel. I did this and made the turn at the buoy. We hauled out the jib and jumped ahead on a great reach.

After a few minutes of scooting along my nephew asked: "When are we going to shut off the engine?"

"Huh?"

Here we were whipping along under full (we actually: reefed) sail. I couldn't hear the diesel, which was not only still running, but set to reverse!

We switched off the diesel and, surprize, surprize - our performance improved.

What a dumbass!

In my own defense though I put it down to the fact that I was so intent on waving at my fellow boaters that I negelcted to focus on my own needs....
At least you weren't racing.
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Wait a minute.......

You were doing 5.5kts with the motor running in reverse?

I'd replace the term "dumbass" with "one hell of a trimmer"

Still a funny story, but I think I'm going to run out and buy a Hunter 30!
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Hey, I think there are plenty of dumba$$es to go around (including me). Hell, we should start a political party of just for dumba$$es... oh sorry, that has already been done.

Seriously, I don't think my Atomic 4 would produce enough thrust in reverse to notice any change in performance.

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Flyboy, Those who haven't BTDTjust haven't BTDT... yet.
"Huh?"
"What?"
I can't hear you over the sound of the .... oh. Nebbermind!"

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Wait a minute.......

You were doing 5.5kts with the motor running in reverse?

I'd replace the term "dumbass" with "one hell of a trimmer"

Still a funny story, but I think I'm going to run out and buy a Hunter 30!
Hey, say what you like. Call it dumb luck - all the stars were aligned. Call it great seamanship - although I really wouldn't do that - I'll defer to dumb luck. But don't call it ********!
We were making 5.5 knots with the engine engaged in reverse and no throttle.
Once I turned off the diesel we jumped up to 6.5 plus.
I'm guesstimating winds of close to 20. On a beam to broad reach, main reefed down to the first reef point and jib (110) all the way out.
Anyone else out on Midland Bay on Sunday should be able to give an accurate wind speed.
All I know is: it was a great sailing day and I really like my new (to me) boat!
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HEY'' welshy i tought you don't like people waving at you, changed your mind have ya? .
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HEY'' welshy i tought you don't like people waving at you, changed your mind have ya? .
Hey, I was brought to see the error of my ways by many fine and reasonable folk here.

I mean: Heaven forfend that I should be a sailing douchebag!
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In my own defense though I put it down to the fact that I was so intent on waving at my fellow boaters that I negelcted to focus on my own needs....
LOL Welshman, I didn't miss your tongue in cheek remark! One point though is if your boat is equipped with with a Yanmar diesel your manual will suggest that you leave your transmission in "neutral" whilst sailing.
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LOL Welshman, I didn't miss your tongue in cheek remark! One point though is if your boat is equipped with with a Yanmar diesel your manual will suggest that you leave your transmission in "neutral" whilst sailing.
That's interesting.
Maybe a topic for another thread, but, as it was explained to me: by putting the gear in reverse while sailing in prevents the prop from spinning. This definitely stops the humming noise as well as reduces stresses on the cutlass bearing.

I'm new to diesel - and not mechanically inclined - so I don't know if I understood the rational.

I'll start a new thread asking more about this.

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