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calmharbor 09-13-2012 06:12 PM

Alcohol Stove - Non-Pressurized
 
I currently have an older Princess alcohol pressurized pump up stove. I want to replace it it and do not want to go to propane. I am considering the non-pressurized 2 burner type of stove. I have looked at the Cookmate and Origo stoves on line at Defender. The salesperson new nothing about them. The Origo was $130 more. Can anyone tell me what they think of these stoves
and which one they prefer. I really don't cook much but want something
easy to use and safe. Any info would be helpful. Thanks. Charlie

saillife 09-13-2012 06:22 PM

Re: Alcohol Stove - Non-Pressurized
 
I love my Origo. Like you I'm not a fan of propane, there is a world of difference between pressurized stoves and the Origo type.

Never had or seen a cookmate so I'm afraid I can't comment on which is better. Considering the price difference I might just go with the cookmate. They are fairly simple devices.

SlowButSteady 09-13-2012 07:38 PM

Re: Alcohol Stove - Non-Pressurized
 
I have an Origo that works great. I've never seen a Cookmate stove "in person", but as far as I can tell the differences between the Origo and Cookmate are pretty trivial/cosmetic. I have seen a couple of reviews of the Cookmate that essentially say the same thing. Other than the price, they seem to be functionally identical.

klem 09-13-2012 09:12 PM

Re: Alcohol Stove - Non-Pressurized
 
Before owning my current boat, I had always used propane, diesel or solid fuel (wood). Having had an Origo for 4 years now and cooking many hundreds of meals on it, I am very satisfied. It is very safe provided that you take it up on deck to fill it and wipe up whatever you spill. It is very cheap to run, we get about 50 days of cruising per gallon of alcohol which is $10-15.

There are only 2 things that I feel a propane stove does better. The first is that a propane stove will boil a really big pot of water faster but as long as you are not cooking for 8, this is not an issue. The other is that you don't get great control trying to turn the flame way down to just keep something warm.

Unless you love cooking or live aboard and cook all the time, I think that the non-pressurized alcohol stoves provide the best bang for your buck. They are totally unlike pressurized ones.

calmharbor 09-13-2012 10:10 PM

Re: Alcohol Stove - Non-Pressurized
 
Thank you - it was very helpful -

Leocat66 09-13-2012 10:12 PM

Re: Alcohol Stove - Non-Pressurized
 
We had an Orego in our Challenger 32' and loved it. Two burner, no oven. We now have a Taylors Kero. which we also like very much. Our second choice would be the Orego again, so simple and so safe.

baboon 09-14-2012 12:18 AM

Re: Alcohol Stove - Non-Pressurized
 
I have the cookmate 2 burner stove, it fit the cut out for the old presurrized homestead perfectly. It has worked well for 3 years now.

MastUndSchotbruch 09-14-2012 08:13 AM

Go Kero!
 
As an alternative, may I suggest to take your old alcohol stove and convert it to kerosene. It will likely only require changing of the jets.

Kerosene is the ideal cooking fuel in a marine environment. It is much safer than alcohol and MUCH safer than propane. Higher energy contents, worldwide availability, nearly unlimited storage life, low cost, ... And let nobody tell you it smells. Properly vaporized kerosene burns without any smell.

Only downside compared to propane is that you have to preheat for 3 minutes, so the galley is not exactly like in your home kitchen. I actually like it that way, makes me aware that I am on my yacht. Compared to pressurized alcohol, I see no downside at all.

I find it amazing that people use any other cooking fuel on a boat.

BubbleheadMd 09-14-2012 09:09 AM

Re: Alcohol Stove - Non-Pressurized
 
How is kerosene safer than alcohol?

MastUndSchotbruch 09-14-2012 09:18 AM

Re: Alcohol Stove - Non-Pressurized
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BubbleheadMd (Post 922110)
How is kerosene safer than alcohol?

Kerosene is pretty much like diesel. It essentially does not evaporate by itself, unlike alcohol or gasoline. Therefore, it does not burn unless either vaporized (under pressure in a heated burner) or wicked (in an oil lamp).

If you spill kerosene, feel free to hold a match to it, it will not burn. Don't try this with alcohol!


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