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Are you sure the rudder post is not bent?
... my thought too...

However if someone replaced a bushing with an inappropriate plastic, some of them will swell when wet which can lead to binding on the stock.

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Re: Stiff steering/rudder

Hey,

I think you should plan on dropping the rudder this winter. Once the rudder is down you should examine the post carefully to see the wear patterns, etc. I would store the rudder somewhere warm and dry for the winter and then see what needs to be done to the rudder in the spring before reinstalling (maybe just sealing it, or perhaps repair some voids, that sort of stuff).

Grease the rudder post before installing the rudder. On my boat there were plastic bearings that went on the rudder post, one below the tube and the other above. They were slightly different thicknesses and needed to be installed correctly otherwise the pin was difficult to put in and rudder was binding when turned (don't ask me how I found out).

Anyway, good luck.
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Re: Stiff steering/rudder

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Sounds like someone might of installed new bushings and didnt hone them proplerly ?

Or injected epoxy ( or simular) to an older bushing to tighten it up and is to tight maybe ?

Keep working it back and forth with plenty of grease will help, but grease needs space to work in
We did grease the heck out of it through the one zerk fitting and I've been using the boat regularly.

It has not seemed to get any better or worse. Also, the stiffness is consistent when turning the helm.
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Re: Stiff steering/rudder

Sounds like it time to go over the side to drop the rudder. Why wait for winter?
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Re: Stiff steering/rudder

I am not sure the rudder is not bent. The hull and rudder had been sanded and prepped for bottom paint the first time I looked at it. There was no damage, or repairs that I could see.

I guess the only way to find out is to remove the rudder.

I'm only a few weeks away from haul out so I guess it will be a winter project.
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Re: Stiff steering/rudder

The problem might be that the stock itself is slightly bent above the rudder (maybe from a grounding or collision of some sort at one point) In some cases these can be satisfactorily straightened.

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The problem might be that the stock itself is slightly bent above the rudder (maybe from a grounding or collision of some sort at one point) In some cases these can be satisfactorily straightened.
Is is possible to bend the stock without damaging the fiberglass? I think the rudder stock is solid stainless. Seems like something else would break before that rudder post bent. But, I'm not very knowledgeable in this department...
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Is is possible to bend the stock without damaging the fiberglass? I think the rudder stock is solid stainless. Seems like something else would break before that rudder post bent. But, I'm not very knowledgeable in this department...
Possible but, I suppose, a bit unlikely. However the damage to the rudder may have been repaired at some point, without taking the time to inspect the rest of it.

It could also be the result of a binding bushing.... Unfortunately dropping the rudder is the way to figure it out.
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Re: Stiff steering/rudder

ive bent my rudder post without any damage to the rudder itself. Last year the hinge point holding the ridder bent due to weather helm and this year i noticed my tiller was more to starboard than usual. After we dropped the rudder there is barely some twist to it but enough to give a few inches of feedback at the tiller.


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Re: Stiff steering/rudder

Rob,
Are you on cncphotoalbum.com? There are hundreds of C&C owners who have dealt with every sort of problem imaginable. If it is a common problem with that model, they will tell you. I don't recall the issue coming up in recent months for your boat.
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