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Re: Stiff steering/rudder

You should also consider that the rudder tube has been over greased. C & C used a grease cup on the tube, same with Hinterhoeller. I've seen remote greasing tubes set up by owners to connect to where grease cup was tapped into the tube and lead to a more convenient location. Last one I dealt with was 82 year old owner over greasing (he thought it should be greased monthly whether it needed it or not) to the point grease oozed out from the top of the tube and also the laminate on the webbing reinforcing the hull/stock tube installation (looked like a previous repair too). Once the rudder was dropped and the tube cleaned and flushed the binding problem was gone. With rudder installed went back to grease cup arrangement and has had no problems.
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Re: Stiff steering/rudder

Good point, rugosa.. also old, dried out grease could itself cause the binding/friction.
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Re: Stiff steering/rudder

Especially when salt water comes into play. If it were me, I'd get a "detail torch" down there and try and cook out all the grease that's in there now and then "re-grease". Big box stores like Lowe's/Home Depot sell the detail torch tip that uses the small canister LP bottles that outdoor "rail" grills use. Apply the heat liberally and you'll eventually see the grease start to bubble out. Then put the new in. I deal with this issue all the time on the play boat's steering tilt-tube.
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Re: Stiff steering/rudder

All of that is taking into assumption that you've actually watched the cable move in and out of the sleeve while disconnected from the tube. Once I "thought" the cable was fine because the wheel would, in fact, turn easily when it was disconnected, only to find out that the wheel was just pulling in slack instead of functioning properly.
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Re: Stiff steering/rudder

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Are you on cncphotoalbum.com? There are hundreds of C&C owners who have dealt with every sort of problem imaginable. If it is a common problem with that model, they will tell you. I don't recall the issue coming up in recent months for your boat.
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Yea, I'm on photoalbum, great resource! I'll give it a shot, thanks.

And thanks for all the other replies. I was not aware something could be "overgreased". Interesting...
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