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I think one of the reasons I single hand, is to get away from folk like Jackdale, waving the rule book and their instructor booklet about and getting on my nerve. Aaron I am with you on this one all the way. Some folk will just never get it and it is good that they don't or otherwise it would be pretty cowded out there so lets keep it a secret shal we.

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Ferret - I would be more that pleased if you stayed away from me. Much appreciated.

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Re: Is sleeping OK?

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It would be great from our point of view if the law had special rules for single-handers. It however does not.

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Seriously???

Can you offer an example of what might be such a Special Rule?

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Sure the rule would state:
Any sailor who puts up a jolly roger flag is automatically the stand on boat. While the JR is flying they may drink what they want, sleep with whom they want or alone if necessary whenever they want.
If two boats both flying the JR collide the the government shall buy a new boat twice a good for any survivors.

So as you can see I was completely serious.

While we are at it we need to draft legislation for socialized Harley maintenance.

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I think one of the reasons I single hand, is to get away from folk like Jackdale, waving the rule book and their instructor booklet about and getting on my nerve. Aaron I am with you on this one all the way. Some folk will just never get it and it is good that they don't or otherwise it would be pretty cowded out there so lets keep it a secret shal we.

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I think in colreg #107-A:d paragraph 3 which will direct you to page 47 column 7 part B it clearly states that one should not " wave the COLREG book in combination with instructors of instructors manual "{about} unless in distress and or nuc.
I got in this very argument with the boy's down at the CHART ROOM the other sunday after the anual" round and round the blinking bouy race" (more of gentlemens race really) and we came to the conclusion that yes, no indeed.

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Re: Is sleeping OK?

I've got another one for you. Lets put single handing on hold for a while. Let's say you have two people doing a big crossing. They get hit with a big storm for 3 days both are completely wrung out. They are in the middle of nowhere but expect to get near a shipping channel in 24 hours.
Should they both sack out for 8 hours so they can get on a normal watch rotation when it is needed.
Or should they continue the watch rotation and both be way less than 100% when in the channel?
Which is more dangerous?
I'm pretty sure the law is clear enough but as to which is more dangerous it is arguable that two people beyond their limits is worse than one rested person.
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Re: Is sleeping OK?

I sailed across the Yucatan channel in a huge norther with a buddy and it was all we could do to spot eachother hour for hour for 24 in a row. I wouldn't of crossed alone, I'd of sailed around the south side of Cuba and hove to till it passed, napping for sure.

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Re: Is sleeping OK?

David - my preferred watch system is a Modified Swedish. 6,6,5,4,3 (starting at 0600). I use it as a matter of course. The crew gets a great rest. I might start my having the most bagged out crew member get some sleep then phase that system in.

BTW - there really are no shipping channels / lanes in the middle of nowhere. The big boats take the shortest route, barring weather. You can expect to run into traffic just about anywhere. I went through a tuna fishing fleet this summer about 800 miles north of Hawaii . That got my attention.
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6 6 5 4 3, what is that?, the amount of people on each watch of your micro managed crossing, or the hours each of the FIVE people on board! what? And how is that fair for the guy who does the 6 on and what? sounds like you've taken something as simple as raising a sail and catching a breeze across an ocean and turned it into the most difficult thing possible with dash of difficult to make it even more confusing for your " students".
I'm glad Garndpa taught me the Keep It Simple Stupid method.
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I suspect 6 6 5 4 3 is the number of hours for a watch for two people rotating back and forth.
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Re: Is sleeping OK?

According to the Coast Guard Accident Statistics for last year
Deprecated Browser Error , there were 514 accidents contributed to Improper lookout with 31 deaths and 391 injuries in reportable accidents which is more in line with the SAR statistics I am used to.

Going through crossfire at sea, fighting fuel/oil fires/collision damage at sea, not to mention hurricanes/typhoons are some of my quals and don't compare to some of my counterparts. I have had sailors that I am proud to have their back and they had mine. That's what sailing is about!
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