Is sleeping OK? - Page 16

johnnyquest37 · #**151** 09-25-2012

If someone is going to solo sail any long distance, that person has to sleep at some point, which likely is a violation of the COLREGs. But that mean Matt Rutherford's recently completed solo, non-stop sail around the Americas was illegal. What Joshua Slocum did was foolhardy, and all the solo round-the-world races illadvised. People solo sail across great distances and God bless them for their courage and for demonstrating that it can be done.

As far as lights/signals for solo sailors catching up on needed rest, what about displaying the signals for a vessel not under command? A vessel not under command goes to the top of the pecking order. A solo sailor asleep could be considered an "exceptional circumstance" as found in the definition of a vessel not under command. Might be hard to rig a sound signal to go off every two minutes in reduced visability, but the lights (two all around red) and signs (two balls aligned vertically) should be easy enough.

Capt.aaron · #**152** 09-25-2012

Here we go again. maybe the balls could be pink?

jackdale · #**153** 09-25-2012

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Originally Posted by johnnyquest37

As far as lights/signals for solo sailors catching up on needed rest, what about displaying the signals for a vessel not under command? A vessel not under command goes to the top of the pecking order. A solo sailor asleep could be considered an "exceptional circumstance" as found in the definition of a vessel not under command. Might be hard to rig a sound signal to go off every two minutes in reduced visability, but the lights (two all around white) and signs (two balls aligned vertically) should be easy enough.

Sleeping is not NUC.

Is sleeping OK?

johnnyquest37 · #**154** 09-25-2012

I'm on your side Capt.aaron.

Capt.aaron · #**155** 09-25-2012

Thank you, and I jest. Jack and I have beat the day shape to death, but Not under command is a good signal to display and should be written to the colregs.

jackdale · #**156** 09-25-2012

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Originally Posted by Capt.aaron

Thank you, and I jest. Jack and I have beat the day shape to death, but Not under command is a good signal to display and should be written to the colregs.

And until it is written in, it is not legitimate.

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A vessel claiming not-under-command status must (1) find itself in exceptional circumstances, and (2) thereby be unable to maneuver as would ordinarily be required by the Rules. The following are examples of conditions that could result in not-under-command status:

Vessel with anchor down but not holding
Vessel riding on anchor chains
Vessel with inoperative steering gear
Sailing vessel becalmed or in irons
Exceptionally bad weather (relative to vessel claiming status)
Vessels claiming not-under-command status are considered to be underway. That is, they re not considered to be at anchor, made fast to the shore, or aground.

http://navruleshandbook.com/Rule3.html

So drop your anchor in 10,000 feet of water.

Capt.aaron · #**157** 09-25-2012

One day it may be, one day.....Hey If my anchors is down and not holding! That's it, drop a little anchor and display the nuc shapes, it won't be holding because it can't reach! Oh what a relief we've finally come to an agreement!!

Ferretchaser · #**158** 09-25-2012

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Originally Posted by Capt. Gary Randall

How difficult can it be to have someone along to stand a watch.

If I had to take someone along I would quit sailing. The whole point is to be alone out there and have MY peace and quiet. I don't want some snotty nose rule book waver on my boat or anyone else for that matter when I am under way. Fine at the dock or on a day sail, but not when I am going from A to B ..then I choose to be alone.

Capt.aaron · #**159** 09-25-2012

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Originally Posted by Ferretchaser

If I had to take someone along I would quit sailing. The whole point is to be alone out there and have MY peace and quiet. I don't want some snotty nose rule book waver on my boat or anyone else for that matter when I am under way. Fine at the dock or on a day sail, but not when I am going from A to B ..then I choose to be alone.

I have this other single handling buddy that does delivery's with me, we are a pair. After 16 hours I'll yell down. " HEY A$$ hole, it's your watch!"
" What ever" he'll say and down I go for 12 hours and I'll hear " Hey dip sh!t
it's your turn" " what ever" I'll say. we'll have a first conversation about the voyage at the bar in Columbia like it was 2 different voyages and neither of us was with the other .

Brewgyver · #**160** 09-25-2012

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Originally Posted by jackdale

0600-1200, 1200-1800, 1800-2300, 2300-0300, 0300-0600.

Sorry - that was rather cryptic. I use it with large crews as well. There is a 48 hour cycle.

This summer we had 6 (later 5 - other story)

OK, Jack, that's at least the second time in this thread you mentioned the "6 (later 5)" crew. How about sharing that story? If you're worried about hijacking the thread (arguably a bit late for that), please start another, and link to it in THIS thread.

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The worst watch is 0300 - 0600 which is why it is so short.

Interesting system, and makes sense on the face of it. I know those wee hours are the worst. Once fell asleep around 0330 on ambush patrol, but that's also another story.