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Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

I'm not clear on why people say the boot stripe needs to be tapered. I used a roll of vinyl tape, and it looks just fine.
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Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

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I'm not clear on why people say the boot stripe needs to be tapered. I used a roll of vinyl tape, and it looks just fine.
When it rolls under into the "pinch" at the stern of your boat, doesn't it look thinner when viewed from the side? The boot top on my quarter tonner had to be nearly twice as wide there as forward to look the same width. On my Columbia, with its tapering overhang it is nearly three times as wide there.
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Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

I agree with Tom.
I have designed boats with well laid out tapered bootstripes and I have done boats with just parallel line bootstrips. I don't think it matters. On mdern. contemprary looking designs the straight boot looks best.

What I do know is that if the boot is tapered with "spring" it makes it damn hard to use it as a reference for flotation measurements. Today I draw almost only straight line boots.

If you have a really traditional type boat, say like my old CT54 then a tapered boot with spring does look better but only slightly.

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The key with any bootstripe is to make sure that the vertical dimension is maintained, especially in the stern as the stripe goes under the counter. This means the actual stripe will have to get wider as it goes under the counter in order to maintain that constant vertical dimension. That can be tricky with tape. If the boot is a thin stripe this element is easier to deal with.
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Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

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I'm not clear on why people say the boot stripe needs to be tapered. I used a roll of vinyl tape, and it looks just fine.
It boils down to personal taste and designer asthetics. Maybe Bob Perry can weigh in on this.
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The key with any bootstripe is to make sure that the vertical dimension is maintained, especially in the stern as the stripe goes under the counter. This means the actual stripe will have to get wider as it goes under the counter in order to maintain that constant vertical dimension. That can be tricky with tape. If the boot is a thin stripe this element is easier to deal with.
Exactly. I've never seen it done successfully with tape - it always looks thinner at the stern.
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Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

Rugger:
I think I just did.

Stripes on a hull can be critical. If you walk around a boat yard you are bound to see a poorly laid out bootstripe that dives down as it turns under the counter. The problem at the bow is not so noticable. But it is there. Once again, the vertical height must be maintained and that means the width of the strip must change. It must get wider as it approaches the transom. The exact amount it need to widen is controlled by the slope/deadrise of the section. If the boat has a very flat run the strip will need to be really wide. So a taped line cannot work. Unless the stripe is very thin and in most cases that would not look very good.

That said, if the stripe is high enough on the hull the topsides may be vertical enough so that you can get by with a tape width. But on a hull like, say amn Alberg 35 you MUST make the stripe wider as it wraps around the counter aft.
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Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

[QUOTE=bobperry;926839]Rugger:
I think I just did.QUOTE]

You got me by 4 minutes Bob, but you are there and I am here 3 hours ahead, so I must have been reading your thoughts.

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Rugger:
I'll go walk my dogs and give you time to catch up.
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Re: Vinyl Striping vs. Painting?

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Rugger:
I think I just did.

Stripes on a hull can be critical. If you walk around a boat yard you are bound to see a poorly laid out bootstripe that dives down as it turns under the counter. The problem at the bow is not so noticable. But it is there. Once again, the vertical height must be maintained and that means the width of the strip must change. It must get wider as it approaches the transom. The exact amount it need to widen is controlled by the slope/deadrise of the section. If the boat has a very flat run the strip will need to be really wide. So a taped line cannot work. Unless the stripe is very thin and in most cases that would not look very good.

That said, if the stripe is high enough on the hull the topsides may be vertical enough so that you can get by with a tape width. But on a hull like, say amn Alberg 35 you MUST make the stripe wider as it wraps around the counter aft.
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