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Re: Help me decide - Mooring bitt or cleat?



The BIT is vastly better IF your on a mooring as most of the cleats i see are really done for docking
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Re: Help me decide - Mooring bitt or cleat?

At the risk of starting a battle (and hearing the war cry of "WASABI!" from 2 threads over) I'll say that in navy training I heard these fixtures called 'bollards'.

The easily remembered mneumonic?

"Bitts are like tits, they come in pairs."

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Re: Help me decide - Mooring bitt or cleat?

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At the risk of starting a battle (and hearing the war cry of "WASABI!" from 2 threads over) I'll say that in navy training I heard these fixtures called 'bollards'.

The easily remembered mneumonic?

"Bitts are like tits, they come in pairs."

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First mention of "Bollard" from Wikipedia:

"The Sailor's Word-Book of 1867 defines a bollard in a more specific context as "a thick piece of wood on the head of a whale-boat, round which the harpooner gives the line a turn, in order to veer it steadily, and check the animal's velocity"."

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Re: Help me decide - Mooring bitt or cleat?

And Wikipedia says that a bitt is the same thing as a bollard; then goes on to define a lot of things as 'bollards' that are clearly not bitts. (i.e. lighted traffic posts).
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Re: Help me decide - Mooring bitt or cleat?

Bitt or Cleat? aren't those the two guys running for president down there?
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Re: Help me decide - Mooring bitt or cleat?

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And Wikipedia says that a bitt is the same thing as a bollard; then goes on to define a lot of things as 'bollards' that are clearly not bitts. (i.e. lighted traffic posts).
I think of bollards like this:

http://www.greenboatstuff.com/dacobrbomo11.html

And bits like this:

Davey & Company Bronze Mooring Bitt

The bit has more of a pin on it that can bite ("bit") you and a bollard is more round.
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Re: Help me decide - Mooring bitt or cleat?

Bitts/bollards are very good for dock lines and for towing but for attaching a permanent home mooring your best bet, IMHO, is to use the bow eye. Your boat is small enough to be trailerable and no doubt has a strong eye on the bow for the trailer winch line. Just make sure the eye is well backed up (as you would a cleat, bitt, or bollard.) The advantages of using the bow eye instead of a fitting on deck are that there will be absolutely no chafe of the mooring line, and the lower attachment point effectively increases the "scope" of the mooring.

I have two pendants attached to my 23' cutter's home mooring. One is 3/4" diameter and connects to the bow eye with a 1/2" dia stainless locking caribiner. This is the primary mooring line. A slightly longer 5/8" line attaches to the bow cleat and serves as both a backup and a pick-up line. It holds the boat securely while I tidy everything up before leaving in the dinghy. I attach the primary line to the bow eye from the dinghy.

This has worked well for me for over 30 years with this boat. Note that this is how I have set up my home mooring; it would not necessarily work with a transient mooring.
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