I am only guessing, but judging from the comments, everyone of them involves someone on a sailboat. Enough said there, since the snobbishness associated with "sailors" is and unfortunate part of the whole scene, and I get it. It's petty and insignificant, but still there, usually represented by the type of people I mentioned earlier, namely want-to-be sailors, and @#$%$@#$ artists. Secondly, this is the only forum I've posted on, if you don't believe me go check all the rest you probably lurk around and see for yourself. And the "stinky smell" comment pretty much sums up my point, you people just don't understand the function of a harbor. Basically it is like a parking lot. You pay for the privilege, park your boat, and are allowed to come and go as you please. The fifteen minutes I mentioned does include the time it takes me to load my gear, groceries etc., and shouldn't be an issue anyway. If you choose to live in a harbor, then it stands to reason that you are accepting all things that are associated with it, and whether you like it or not, it may involve some smells and noises you don't like. My advice to you is to either accept the harbor and all it's elements , or find somewhere else to park your boat. VWM never stated that their marina was for sailboats only, and in fact kept telling me they wanted people to use their boats, unfortunately this was supposed to fall under some kind of implied code of liveaboard nonsense I've never witnessed anywhere else. I'm moving, so it's no longer and issue here, but my feelings for VWM are still the same. It's a weird place with petty people running it, and had I known initially this was the case, I would have never considered it as a place where I can park my boat and use it as I see fit. All the rest of your comments are about what I would expect from people of your ilk, luckily I have run across some serious sailors both at the islands and elsewhere who truly are good seamen, and this type of conversation would never even be broached by them. They understand the ocean and all aspects of it's use by all types of people, and this sense of exclusive privilege would never even occur to them. Adios.