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Captain milos 10-06-2012 09:37 PM

Leaving a yacht in Greece for more than a year
 
Hello friends
I am thinking of buying a sailboat in Greece and I am wondering if
Anyone out there has any info or experience of leaving a yacht with
A Canadian flag in Greece for more than two or three years,(the laws)
Thank you....

celenoglu 10-07-2012 01:52 AM

Re: Leaving a yacht in Greece for more than a year
 
Do not have information for Greece. You can leave yourboat in Turkey for 5 years then the boat should leave the country come back for another 5 yearswhich is very easy, all you have to is visit nearby Greek island (sometimes less than a few miles.)

jimjazzdad 10-07-2012 08:19 AM

Re: Leaving a yacht in Greece for more than a year
 
I don't have specifics, but Greece is in the EU, so VAT on the value of boat would be payable after 18 months. celenoglu advise about Turkey is good - lots of Europeans keep their boats in places like Marmaris for tax reasons. However, if the boat you buy has the VAT already paid in Greece, the situation may be different...you will have to do some digging for a clear answer.

Captain milos 10-07-2012 09:23 AM

Re: Leaving a yacht in Greece for more than a year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by celenoglu (Post 930385)
Do not have information for Greece. You can leave yourboat in Turkey for 5 years then the boat should leave the country come back for another 5 yearswhich is very easy, all you have to is visit nearby Greek island (sometimes less than a few miles.)

Thanks for info, do you have experience in Turkey yourself

Captain milos 10-07-2012 09:29 AM

Re: Leaving a yacht in Greece for more than a year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimjazzdad (Post 930421)
I don't have specifics, but Greece is in the EU, so VAT on the value of boat would be payable after 18 months. celenoglu advise about Turkey is good - lots of Europeans keep their boats in places like Marmaris for tax reasons. However, if the boat you buy has the VAT already paid in Greece, the situation may be different...you will have to do some digging for a clear answer.

Thanks for info jimjazzdad. :)

hellosailor 10-08-2012 12:19 AM

Re: Leaving a yacht in Greece for more than a year
 
Milos, are you planning to wander teh docks in Greece and look for a private sale? Or use a broker?

I'd call a broker, or two, and contact the Greek authorities and get some first-hand information from them. See if it is the same from all parties. Get the legal details (duties, taxes, terms) IN WRITING.

And get them from the source.

celenoglu 10-08-2012 01:45 AM

Re: Leaving a yacht in Greece for more than a year
 
I am a Turkish citizen. Due to very high import costs, most of Turkish owners register their boats in a different country and the boats are kept in Turkey. I am very familiar with our regulations. If you wish to keep your boat in Turkey, I will be glad to give information about the marinas that you might be intersted.

Captain milos 10-08-2012 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellosailor (Post 930676)
Milos, are you planning to wander teh docks in Greece and look for a private sale? Or use a broker?

I'd call a broker, or two, and contact the Greek authorities and get some first-hand information from them. See if it is the same from all parties. Get the legal details (duties, taxes, terms) IN WRITING.

And get them from the source.

Hellosailor I agree in what you say
I am planning to do both ,but I think a
Broker might be the smoothest and
Safest transaction .I was born in Greece ,but moved to Canada when
I was 9 years old.I don't know if there
Are any benefits (law wise)to that

Captain milos 10-08-2012 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celenoglu (Post 930692)
I am a Turkish citizen. Due to very high import costs, most of Turkish owners register their boats in a different country and the boats are kept in Turkey. I am very familiar with our regulations. If you wish to keep your boat in Turkey, I will be glad to give information about the marinas that you might be intersted.

Celenoglu thank you for the offer to help.I have received a quote from
A boat yard on an island that my family
Is from (Milos , in the Cyclades) for a complete package,in- out- and storage
In their yard for 7 months for 2000 euros.The type of yacht that I told them
Was for a 16 meter sailboat which is
What I am looking for.I have heard that
The marinas in turkey are more competitive with their prices.How does
My quote compare???

PCP 10-08-2012 02:16 PM

Re: Leaving a yacht in Greece for more than a year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain milos (Post 930723)
Celenoglu thank you for the offer to help.I have received a quote from
A boat yard on an island that my family
Is from (Milos , in the Cyclades) for a complete package,in- out- and storage
In their yard for 7 months for 2000 euros.The type of yacht that I told them
Was for a 16 meter sailboat which is
What I am looking for.I have heard that
The marinas in turkey are more competitive with their prices.How does
My quote compare???

2000 euros is not expensive at all. A popular place to leave the boat in the hard is Preveza on the Ionian. For sailing is probably better (there are some very windy summer months on the Cyclades).

On the other side of the bay there are three big shipyards that have an huge number of boats on the hard. Among them is Cleopatra Marina that has a super ambiance (they are really nice) and they maintain with the clients an almost familiar relation. The clients among them act also as a big family, very different from the ambiance on another near by marinas like Gouvia. The prices are also nice too and they have an huge experience in mechanic and in taking care of the boat.

I have been there this year to repair blown up sails and even the sailmaker from Preveza (called by the marina) was a very nice guy that made a good job, fast and not expensive.

They will offer you a free ride to Preveza (that my wife says is a nice town) each day for shopping, they have a small market and a super restaurant and bar, good ones, with free internet and not expensive.

Regarding the problems with your boat they have so much experience that I would ask them. I bet they had already many sailors from outside Europe for a year or more and will know the answer. They are also the kind of guys that will help you wirh that.

Regards

Paulo


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