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I have done both. I'm in a slip now. In liked the mooring but for me it was more of a hassle. Keep a dingy at the dock. I ha o move the dingy every 3 days as it was only 72 hour parking. Had to keep gas in the dingy. If I had work to do I was shuttling back and forth with tools and gear. Night hookups were more of a hassle. Always feared running over others mooring lines. Windy mooring hookups were also harder. Why I like a slip. Easier to dock. Easier to get in and go. More convenient parking for me. Easier to clean!! I can wax an polish on the dock. I can also hose off. I have shore power. My view from te slip is better than it was from the mooring. That though is dependent on the mooring and the slip. It really does depend on the particular slip. I'm in my second slip now and the first was convenient yet not scenic. The new one is much easier to get in and has a much nicer surrounding than the old slip. In the mooring j was surrounded by broken down abandoned boats. In the slip they were pristine and polished boats. Made me do ALOT more cleaning and upkeep. Also MUCH easier to work on. The wife comes on the boat more at the slip. That's a good thing.

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Re: Mooring vs slip?

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......Montauk, Greenport, (actually Doering Harbor) , Coakles, Stonington, Pornt Jeffereson, Northport, Olde Saybrooke were virtually no anchoring areas but plenty of moorings. Cape May, Atlantic Highlands, Barnegat, good anchorages.
I'm familiar with anchorages in many of those places. But, I agree, they are often either much further from town or less protected than the mooring fields.


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In NE the moorings appear to be money making set ups for the towns. I am not a lawyer and my knowledge of riparian rights is limited to houses on the beach, how is it these towns are able to rope off large areas in front of them in the water. Is it the town that owns the water? The county? The state? Are marinas to expensive to build there, but are not on the Chessapeake?
I'm familiar with a pretty even mix of private and town owned mooring fields. No standard formula that I recognize. I don't think either are in it for a money grab, there is demand for them.

I can't speak for the Chessy, but the environmentalists target marinas here. If not just making it expensive, it makes it undesirable to deal with. Then the locals that paid 7 figures for their home that is one block from the water, don't like it obstructing their view. Want to bet the marina was there first? So, how does the millionaire keep the reins on the marina? He drives his gas guzzling SUV down to the environmentalists and makes a donation.

Building a new one will never be feasible again, it seems. The waterfront property is too valuable. In fact, it's more common that marinas are being torn down to build condos or office buildings.


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I have found it to be very unfriendly to travelers who just are passing through and want to drop hook for the night. Over $1 a foot to ull up on a mooring when I carry sufficient tackle is hard to swallow.
$1 per foot? I'm going there. Low end is $3 per foot and $6 per foot is common in the tourist traps. I don't think it's unfriendly, it's simply charging what the market will apparently bear. There are almost no slips available unless yu reserve in advance.
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Most of my reasons were already covered Dave.
I'll add something else.
During storms I prefer to actually pick my anchorage, use my own ground tackle and use natural windbreaks to remain in the lee.
That being said my GYB mooring is very sheltered from all but the north.
During most storms boats at the Skipjack, Granary, Sassafras Harbor and GYB get hammered by waves if the winds are out of the west. They can't face into the weather either.
That huge storm that rolled across the NE Chessy on July 4th weekend saw lots of boats damaged at the docks.

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Re: Mooring vs slip?

Our dock is in a protected hurricane hole. Other than a storm which brings 8 foot storm surge ( we have very little todal change unlike Maine) our bat is much safer tied up in 8 places vs t an anchor or mooring.

My question is not for the once in a ten year storm, but is for the normal storms of 30-40 knott winds which are common to have 5 or so a year. I can't beleive its safer to go anchor my boat out than leave it in a marina protected 360 degrees.

Fairly cruisers, does tht mean every storm you untie your boat and anchor t setting on it?

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We have Hylas, HRs, Swans, etc on moorings all around here. 50+ footers to boot
My guess is they have a large powerboat in a slip they use for cocktailing or as a tender when they want to go sailing.

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Our dock is in a protected hurricane hole. Other than a storm which brings 8 foot storm surge ( we have very little todal change unlike Maine) our bat is much safer tied up in 8 places vs t an anchor or mooring.

My question is not for the once in a ten year storm, but is for the normal storms of 30-40 knott winds which are common to have 5 or so a year. I can't beleive its safer to go anchor my boat out than leave it in a marina protected 360 degrees.

Fairly cruisers, does tht mean every storm you untie your boat and anchor t setting on it?

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It was blowing approx 20-25+ when we returned at about 9:00 pm. Despite this being a very "protected" hole with a narrow fairway to get in, my friends boat was still heeling in the slip and pinned against the dock after we tied her up. He's only got a few inches between his boat and the pilings.. All that in only 20-25 knots in a "protected" hole.. During the day while we were out sailing it blew harder but I was not there to see how the boats reacted..

Down there you don't have a choice as there are very limited moorings. Up here there is a choice and many of our local marinas don't have a wait list while at the same time the mooring fields do..

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How does one safely secure the outboard on a mooring slip. I know there are locking systems available, but are they reasonably secure. That is my greatest concern. I am considering a mooring in Mission Bay in San Diego
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How does one safely secure the outboard on a mooring slip. I know there are locking systems available, but are they reasonably secure. That is my greatest concern. I am considering a mooring in Mission Bay in San Diego
You mean the dingy? I tied it to the mooring lines. Was also a good visual of where I need to go. It was secure except once in bug wind conditions. The line somehow unwrapped from the mooring. Dingy goes flying through the mooring field because of the current. Had to swing around an maneuver a 30 foot boat and chase down a dingy that is caught in the current. All while making sure I don't hit other boats and don't run over other mooring lines. Then one guy had to jump out of the boat and into the dingy to retrieve it. It was hairy but we had a great laugh when it was all done.

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My guess is they have a large powerboat in a slip they use for cocktailing or as a tender when they want to go sailing.
Painfully true. One I know only races his Swan, but parties on his 70 ft power boat.

In my current marina, bragging rights don't go to the guy with the biggest boat. They go to the guy with the most boats. One guy has three, all in their own slip.


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Re: Mooring vs slip?

Usually wherever you are you can tie up for a few hours during the day, at a gas dock or marina dock, whatever to fill water, scrub the boat, do laundry. I like to row so no engine hassles. On a mooring the boat is always in line with the breeze so there is always a nice breeze through the boat, and less bugs usually...both big advantages. And yeah, sitting in the cockpit having dinner or a pop is much more pleasant moored. I moor at 79th st in NYC when there. A tough spot for the elements (current, wake, tide, traffic) but ashore you are in the heart of Manhattan...
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